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England Manager

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by THURNBY YELLOW, Jul 9, 2016.

  1. THURNBY YELLOW

    THURNBY YELLOW Well-Known Member

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    My views on England are fairly well known I guess (hapless and hopeless in fairly equal measure) but just when you think things could not get any worse I see on the back of my Mother's rag this morning (Mail for God's sake) that Don Howe is a favourite at least for the caretaker role. Last week I heard that Hoddle was in serious contention for the eventual Hodgson successor and if not him Allardyce.
    And I thought things could not get worse!
    I sincerely hope that fans boycott their next England game(s) which will probably be friendlies against other World giants like San Marino or Greenland and continue to do so until this rag bag of a team DESERVE IT. I do not expect this to happen in the next few years.
     
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    KIO Well-Known Member

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  3. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    I saw sonewhere this morning that the FA were in talks with Klinsmann!
     
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  4. THURNBY YELLOW

    THURNBY YELLOW Well-Known Member

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    Well we haven't quite been there, but we have done the foreign thing with Sven and then Capello - to what end?
     
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  6. DHCanary

    DHCanary Very Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I think on the international stage we need to accept for now that we don't have players with the ball skills of France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc and do one of two things.

    First option would be to move on from anyone over the age of about 25 and try to build a team which can improve together over the next 3 tournaments. Woy couldn't bring himself to cast away Rooney, Milner, etc, it needs to be done wholeheartedly.

    Second option is to default to traditional English football. Pair Kane and Carroll up top, and hit long balls up to them. Make the most of our limited players by playing limited, ugly football that many of them are familiar with. If I can see a long term picture to bring through youngsters playing better football, I'm not adverse to the first team being a bit brutalist and being annoying to play against.

    For that reason I'd like Big Sam as England manager, and have anyone actually talented train with the U21s part of the time to build understandings.
     
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  7. Hairy Mary Quite Canary

    Hairy Mary Quite Canary Well-Known Member

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    It seems like my whole life, England have been one or two tournaments away from being where they need to be. We simply don't appear to have the ability to execute a proper strategy. Hoddle or Big Sam? Brilliant that's sorted then and we can go into the next tournament with high expectations!! It needs to be fixed at grass roots levels with kids playing smaller games through to an older age to get more time on the ball and coaches looking for more than size and power as attributes in a player. I wonder if Messi was born in England how he would have developed?! I'm sure incremental band-aid improvements can be made in the short term to help England at least get out of the group phase at the next World Cup but I think real success is at least another generation away and that's if the FA's leadership get their heads out of the sand right now.
     
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  8. General Melchett

    General Melchett Well-Known Member

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    With such inspired footballing luminaries as Danny Mills on board, I have no doubt that football England will have a bright and glorious future!

    Bah!
     
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  9. DUNCAN DONUTS

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    We may as well get Simon Cowell to do it with Ant and Dec as his assistants.
    A premium rate phone poll to choose the squad and substitutions .
    Couldn't do any worse .
     
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  10. ncgandy

    ncgandy Well-Known Member

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    Good idea.

    Hart, Sterling, Daniel 'God helped me score'Sturridge, Milner, and, what the Hell, the rest of the current sorry bunch - it's a NO from me. <ok>
     
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    Forgot_My_Lines Well-Known Member

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    Big Sam given permission by Sunderland to talk to the FA.
     
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  12. Walsh.i.am

    Walsh.i.am Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    And presumably, Andy Carroll to be first name on the team sheet if it's mission successful?
    I think I'd prefer somebody like Klinsman, a new approach rather than inheriting a pile of **** and trying to coax life out of it? :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  13. Forgot_My_Lines

    Forgot_My_Lines Well-Known Member

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    ....I said months before the Euros, when Wroy basically said "I don't care how many Carroll scores, he's not in my squad"

    I said I def would take him, because all our attacking midfielders and strikers are all the same kind of players. We need something different to bring off the bench! The amount of possession, corners, crosses we had. I am sure carroll would have bagged a hand full of goals, and that would have won us those games we dominated and just couldn't score.

    If Big Sam called him up, I'd be glad if he called up him, because he would add something much needed to an England side. He's probably call up Noble too, who also should have been in our squad!! He'd also would have been a manager who would have taken Drinkwater. Id rather all those players that the sh**/injured/old faithful Wroy decided to pick.
     
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    Walsh.i.am Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Agree on all three counts, FML <ok>
     
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    Forgot_My_Lines Well-Known Member

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    Cheers Crabby.
     
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  16. DHCanary

    DHCanary Very Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I'd hope Big Sam could be the one to finally break the stranglehold that the top teams have over the England squad. He's spent his playing and managerial career at 'unfashionable' clubs, so he should know the value of players who aren't the current media darlings. He's fought relegation battles where he's built a team greater than the sum of its parts, which is what England need for any short term prospects.
     
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    Forgot_My_Lines Well-Known Member

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    I really think he would have never had Wiltshire, or Delph in the last load to pick from. I would like him as a manager. We need someone who is loyal, worked his way up, worked in hard situations, and is use to working with players who can show a hell of a lot more than their "reputation".
     
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