Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

Yes, because I can understand logic a lot better than you

 

I think perhaps you would be better trying to prove this point than just making a hollow claim.
Telling me something is nonsense because you don't understand it isn't a brilliant start.

 

I proved the point already
See #9653

 

QEII

 

Yes well done on proving you had completely missed the original point and gone off on a tangent about who issues visas. Something that everyone was already aware of.

 

He was talking ****e, he was corrected, he's since tried to cover his error with some pedantic nonsense about the country of issue.

What more would you expect from a politician?

 

I should have posted the rest of it in fairness, but I decided to spare you any further embarrassment.

It was the post where you claimed Remain was the racist vote

 

Just curious if anyone could clarify this that I asked earlier?

 

Yes that's exactly what's being said, in fact they've said it themselves, and seem quite proud of it. As despite their public utterances that they will not allow BNP and EDL members to join their party, they accept that they'll take up to 75% of their votes....

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/07/ukip-edl-bnp_n_4549306.html

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukip-bnp-nigel-farage-462014

Hardly surprising when you consider that they had at least 23 racists and homophobes standing for election under their party banner

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...and-racists-stand-as-election-candidates.html

 

Okey doke, , so the answer to the question I actuall asked is?

 

And Labour and Tories dont have any.

 

It'll be big and black.

 

I answered a question that you asked, hence the reason the sentence you posted had a question mark at the end...

 

Okey doke, You answered a question that was already answered, so I'll just assume the actual question is yet another one you avoided.

I guess that's understandable as your answer to the question you decided to have a stab at, was to state via your links. "The influx of BNP support is likely to cause problems given that Ukip explicitly bans BNP members from joining their party. Ukip also describes itself as a “libertarian, non-racist party”.

"Meanwhile, one North Wales UKIP member, Cameron Needham, told the forum that the ban on accepting BNP members into the party should remain"

"Ukip has kept a distance from the English Defence League,"

A Ukip spokesman told the Huffington Post UK: “Ukip is the only political party to have restrictions in place to prevent former members of parties or groups such as the BNP and EDL from joining. This is because we hold dearly the values of freedom, equality and liberty that organisations such as these contradict.

“Whether or not a few certain individuals on a UKIP forum voice different opinions does not change the party’s firm stance on this issue and we would advise UKIP members who feel they may not fully comprehend why UKIP proudly adheres to this position to reconsider their reasons.”

“Regarding the assertion that former BNP members may move to UKIP, we are entirely unwilling to renege on our promise to current members to uphold the party’s core values and ideals of which this rule forms a central tenet. However the collapse of the BNP is surely a good thing in the detoxification of British politics.”

 

I've not avoided one question you've posed in this entire debate, you however have ignored numerous answers given with your stock deflects - you don't understand, QED, etc etc ad infinitum....

Your question about the EU resembling UKip was inane, as it ignored the fact that individual countries within the EU, decide their own immigration policies for non EU nationals. The EU just allows free movement within it's own boundaries, a fact that you still appear to be struggling with

Did you vote UKiP by any chance?

 

I'm voting for the sensible party. 100% with the movement.

 

It's another simple enough question that you're struggling to answer without adding a lot of nonsensical guff to try to mask your dilemma.

 

I was going to post them in response to Tobes links that show UKIP screen them out, but if you filter to just those convicted, it runs to 75 pages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:British_politicians_convicted_of_crimes


Whoops, I underestimated, there are 5 more sub categories, with 84 more pages on one alone. And they only include "crimes that are important to British politicians notability, which will in general be serious crimes. Normally summary offences, usually dealt with in magistrates' courts or similar, will not result in an entry here."

And to think, that was his attempt to avoid answering another simple question.

 

I see.

So you're not racist then. In which case, why are you so scared of foreigners?

 

Anyway, as tobes made such a dogs dinner of trying to answer the simple question, anyone else care to clarify?

To avoid confusion, the first bits are there just to frame the question. I've highlighted the bit I'm more interested in the answer to.