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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Hutch-tiger69, May 30, 2016.

  1. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    From a good second hand home ?!
     
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  2. Irememberwaggy

    Irememberwaggy Well-Known Member

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    I've not seen or heard any reliable evidence to the contrary - have you?
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes.
     
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  4. Irememberwaggy

    Irememberwaggy Well-Known Member

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    So are you seriously saying that you've got reliable evidence that the Allams' will not be selling to a reliable new owner?
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm afraid selective reading won't help you here.

    That's not what I said.

    Apologist.
     
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  6. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    You any to show he wouldn't other than what he has said. The man who said he was walking away in 24 hours, the man who said he would give the club away? The man who said football should be as free as the air we breathe?
    Not to mention his statements about his flight from Egypt, studying, money transfer problems etc? How could anyone doubt him?
     
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  7. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Which logic was that? What rebranding of football clubs set a precedent? The significant investment if we had changed the name turned out to be a possibility of £1million. £1million when our income was about £100million anyway. Well worth causing upset and alienating fans, wasn't it?
     
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  8. spesupersydera

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    I give you Vincent Tan at Cardiff CC, this marketing genius started his rebranding efforts before the Allams - shirts from blue to red, bluebirds to dragons, all in an effort to get the Asian dollar out of those gullible Asian punters. We all know how that one ended though; despite the lure of the mighty red dragon the not so gullible Asian punters continued to support Barcelona, Real and ManU etc, and to make things worse, this genius lost a huge part of his his home market too. Fortunately, unlike our owners, Mr Tan saw the flaws of his marketing strategy and instantly reverted back to the historical kit and badge. Moral of the story - our history might not be great, but it's all we've got ... stop ****ing with it!
     
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  9. citycityhull

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    The business logic, that same logic used by many companies to make significant profits.

    example: I was in a bar in thailand after our first promotion, the bar was called Tiger bar and full of city flags and posters. I asked the manager how long he followed city to which he replied "I dont, but we love tigers". Tigers are a symbol of power in asia and from a marketing ploy several companies based in asia may have liked to be linked with Tigers" ergo more profitable sponsorship, potential tours of asia which increase merchandise sales (real madrid recouped beckhams transfer fee in shirt sales alone in far east). Or how about US, massive and growing fan base for football with significant investors, again make a name out there and potential sponsorship opportunities arise.

    or you can stick with Flamingo land, and advertising sponsors such as Leonard silver, MKM and the like. I am pretty sure major Asian or US companies would invest a shedmload more cash then local companies, and would be worth far more then £1m overall

    I never said that this plan would work but that I could understand the Allam's logic in making "Tigers" a global brand in order to draw in revenue.

    nor did I say I supported that train of thought. I detest name change and the start of the Allams slippery sloo was to ignore tradition and fan loyalty in the persuit of a global business model.

    as an aside, do you not think that any future owner for overseas will not try to build us into a global brand (hopefully without the ridiculous name change)?
     
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  10. Trau Morgus

    Trau Morgus Well-Known Member

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    It's still staggering that people believed (and still seem to believe) all the 'marketing' bullshit that was supposed to be the reason for a name change.

    Take a look at these two lines:

    Hull City AFC
    Hull City Council

    That there is the ONLY reason the whole name change bollocks began.
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    As someone with thirty years experience of doing business in China, including brand marketing, I can tell you categorically that it was a complete load of bollocks. Even Assem knew it was bollocks, he knew it would never generate any extra revenue, it was just a bullshit excuse to try and disguise his real motivation, which was spite.
     
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  12. spesupersydera

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    The believers are getting fewer and fewer though TM
     
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  13. Barchullona

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    So a bloke who had a bar called Tiger bar in Thailand is proof that changing our name would be a good idea? The bloke who was full of flags and posters of a team named Hull City, which rsther negates your point.
    What one of the two or three biggest clubs in the world selling shirts with the name of who was possibly the best known football in the world has to do with it our how it justifies change our name is a mystery only you can explain. Maybe if they had dropped the common and lousy Real, there a load of clubs in Spain with that name, and become Madrid Tigers they would have sold even more.
     
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  14. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    Correct ^^^^^^ this.

    I hope that even Assem has had enough of his boy blunder messing things up. Maybe the actual owner has taken over the talks.
    "Ebab go away and clean your room". Leave things to the adults.
     
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  15. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    Even if that wasn't bollocks, we could still have marketed "The Tigers", our nickname, without the need to even consider changing the club's name.

    Unfortunately Allam doesn't have logic or an Asian business plan. What he does have is an obsessive loathing of Hull City Council & because of this obsessive loathing he refuses to use the words "Hull City" unless he really has to. His obsession has led to spiteful attacks on supporters, who have fought passionately for the club to retain it's name, by way of threats, bullying, intimidation & ridiculous price increases.

    They're lying ****s who cannot be trusted, the sooner they **** off the better.


    On a side note, your bar which was full of City flags was full of Hull City flags not Hull Tiger flags. Go figure.

    EDIT: just seen CC had made a similar point to my last one.
     
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  16. Mr Hatem

    Mr Hatem Well-Known Member

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    Ebab? Probably you fancy a kebab after visiting the snooker club tonight.
     
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  17. Mr. Shoes

    Mr. Shoes Well-Known Member

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    Jesus wept.

    Are we still raking over old wounds.


    I'd like a few moths in here right now for a change of scene.


    Can't be long now, to wait and see. Better not be, as there seems to be an inverse correlation between the closer we get and the blather posted.
     
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  18. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Andy that is an excellent post. If you have any more info please post it
     
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  19. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    I have posted this in the past. I also think that a hotel would still not be a viable proposal unless there was an addition feature such as a conference centre. Even a casino could struggle at the location.
     
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  20. Anal Frank Fingers

    Anal Frank Fingers Well-Known Member

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    Bet your Dad is Bob. There are similarities ;)
     
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