Sadly Cologne I think you again miss the point. All your statistics could be right as far as I know - but if people FEEL inundated by EU nationals then that is the issue that needs to be dealt with. Again it is useless to blame the UK or its government for not dealing with it - that makes no difference. You have to deal with reality and the reality is that the likes of UKIP have fooled the electorate into beleiveing the EU is the culprit. As the EU have failed to understand what the British public think and feel they have made too few concessions and lost the argument. It is no good talking about Leicester or Luton or Slough - loook at the map of England and Wales and it was mostly Brexit. Now we all suffer. EU and UK alike. I love all migrants - I love London and its ethnic and cultural diversity, I love hearing other languages spoken. When we had our first child and Mrs L gave up work her main circle of friends were Polish immigrants and we learnt words like Solidarnosc and how good authentic Polish vodka is. Selsey is a seaside town with farms where people pick crops surrounding us - perfect for people who work for low money. As I did say Mrs L and I were the only people I know to vote Remain. The EU did not understand the strength of UK feeling - whether justified or not - and that decided the outcome
Having watched the reaction of Tory party members tonight, it is fairly clear that it is not only the country that is split, but the party as well. It used to be thought that the party would close ranks rather better than other parties, but just how long before trouble breaks out again? The news coming out of Brussels tonight is that she is in no rush to invoke Article 50, something that they can do nothing about, but they are stuck with it due to the wording. British politics looks more and more stupid from outside the country, with people in power just hoping to advance their own careers. No one knows what the legal standing is regarding who can trigger the leave mechanism, anymore than can Corbyn have his name on the ballot paper for Labour leader without getting a required amount of support from his MPs. To think that at one time other countries thought that the UK model was one to follow is now pathetic.
I remember doing British Constitution at A level.... and of course we never had one.... coming back to haunt us now
‘Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. And where there is despair, may we bring hope’ Margaret Thatcher on becoming Prime Minister. Did she achieve it?
I agree with a lot of what you've written, I've underlined it. But if the UK or its government weren't to blame, nor was the EU. It reminds me a bit of the monkey-hangers. The blame lies with media and UKIP being allowed to spout the bullshit they did, over the years. The thing posted by H included a bloke saying that immigrants should pay their way. We all know they did, MORE than our own British nationals - where was the finger pointing there? It did not suit Farage and his blackshirt mates' agenda though, did it? It didn't sell newspapers as much as fingerpointing a scapegoat for the economic **** ups of the banks (Farage's cronies). The media sells itself (in every sense) on the breeding of fear. They did it, they got people scared, they found a convenient scapegoat, we weren't going to REALLY leave, but we can sell some papers, increase our ratings... As ofh seemed to be saying, what a way to run a country. (Edited because I italicised but that was automatically done as it was a quote. Revisited it and underlined instead. )
And for good measure here is an example of some of the harmony, faith and hope she brought to the West End of London. please log in to view this image
"The overwhelming consensus is that these things do not take two years to negotiate, the rough guide that we are all talking about in the field is around 10 years." "The Swiss signed their first framework agreement with the EU back in 1972 and they are still negotiating. "The Lords EU Committee says trade deals between the EU and non-EU states take between four and nine years on average." If all the above are correct, I will have moved from OFH to VeryOFH.
How naive of you not think that all politicians think about their own advancement. The Tory Party will unite behind the new leader, the European problem that has dogged the Tory Party for the last few decades has now been put to bed. There are many millions of people in Europe who wish their own government had the guts to call a referendum to break free of the shackles of the eurocrat mafioso. If we had the useless bunch masquerading as a government as you do in France then derision would be deserved.
She was extremely successful in turning the country around, before she tamed the unions we were like present day France. Before her premiership we had despair, doubt and discord. She was our greatest ever PM, after Winston of course.
Theresa May is certainly going out of her way to unite the party and leave the electorate, especially those that believe in fairy stories, in no doubt where she stands. She said "Brexit means Brexit and we're going to make a success of it. There will be no attempts to remain inside the EU, no attempts to rejoin it by the back door, and no second referendum. The country voted to leave the EU, and as prime minister I will make sure that we leave the EU" Get it? she certainly does.
North-East MEP Mr Arnott, 35, said he wanted to appeal to the millions of voters who did not support UKIP in the general election but backed Brexit in last month's referendum. He warned Theresa May's success in the Tory leadership contest would mean "negotiations for the UK's withdrawal from the EU will be in the hands of those who do not actually want us to leave".
