Brett is definitely secured. What Cameron said previously is immaterial. It is up to the new PM to decide on the timing. It makes more sense to find as much common interests with our European friends before the article 50 is activated. I think the planned period of hustings around the country is far too long, they should be voting for the new PM within three weeks.
The will of the people in this context is Brexit. You will almost certainly have to wait until 2020 for a general election.
An official response from the foreign office said that 33 million people had voted and that “the decision must be respected”. “We must now prepare for the process to exit the EU,” the response reads. The Foreign Office said: “The EU Referendum Act received Royal Assent in December 2015. The Act was scrutinised and debated in Parliament during its passage and agreed by both the House of Commons and the House of Lords. The Act set out the terms under which the referendum would take place, including provisions for setting the date, franchise and the question that would appear on the ballot paper. The Act did not set a threshold for the result or for minimum turnout. “As the Prime Minister made clear in his statement to the House of Commons on 27 June, the referendum was one of the biggest democratic exercises in British history with over 33 million people having their say. “The Prime Minister and Government have been clear that this was a once-in-a-generation vote and, as the Prime Minister has said, the decision must be respected. We must now prepare for the process to exit the EU and the Government is committed to ensuring the best possible outcome for the British people in the negotiations.”
So there is then, as I suspected, absolutely no reason for the EU to let us have our way on anything. We burn the bridge then negotiate. And this is a good thing, we're going to be all the stronger for it? Plus all the people who perpetuated this have all quit already. Well that's brilliant. And this is what the "majority" voted for, is it?
Sorry Leonardo, the 'slim' majority was 1 million, 300,000 people...put into numbers that's a lot of people! Not only that, the lies that came out of the remain camp were shameful. See how decisions were delayed to mislead voters! The £350 million claim by Remain as a lie was never promised to the NHS by anyone. It was used as an example of what 'could be done' with that money if it wasn't going to the EU. How convenient that the remain people are using it as part of the post vote lie. You see? Everything can be interpreted to suit, and misinterpreted and reinterpreted until none of it is truth and it's all fabrication to suit whoever wants what! Truth is, we don't know the truth! And we can't predict the future. A claim by brexit that £350m would go to the NHS, if they had claimed it, would have been futile, since they are not 'in power' to make those kind of decisions. Any 'promises' by either side, unless made by those in Government, were just words. Neither side could make promises, and both made statements and counter statements to suit. One thing is for sure. Every Brexiteer i have spoken to has agreed that if the vote had gone the other way, they would have accepted the result and moved on. Some of the Remain camp, when looking at themselves in the cold light of day, may look back and feel very ashamed imo.
Meanwhile, without wishing to cause mayhem, I'm going to leave this here, because I think it's worth seeing. And then I'm going to go back to football because no arguments will ever be won about this subject, everyone has their view of the truth and nothing is going to change it!
Hi H 1) Agreed .... Works on all sides. Except that we had some certainty about the medium term if we stayed in 2) I disagree on this one. I imagine many who voted Brexit may regret what is currently unfolding. Fall of the £1, volatility of the markets, end of trade deals, uncertainty re many regarding their jobs and residency rights be the Brits in Europe or Vice Versa etc etc
perhaps, but i think the vast majority of Brexit voters expected this in the short term. There are very few who were under any illusion that things wouldn't get worse before they got better, but I 100% believe that things will get better, and far better than the status quo or worse that we would have had remaining in the EU.
I am sorry H but I find this to be a bigoted and divisive polemic. How Pat believes he is going to win anyone over I just don't know
to be honest Yorkie, both words that could be used for a lot of the remain people, that's a massive part of the problem. Both sides can be extremely divisive, both almost beyond polemic and very bigoted sadly. This has been viscous, on both sides of the argument and we all think we're right. Eventually things will calm down, when we get a clearer understanding of what might happen, who will be PM, what course of action parliament will take. Meanwhile, it has become a bit of a circle that will go round and round ...and round!
i believe that sometimes, when you can see you are reaching a dead end, it's better to take a leap of faith than to bash yourself against the wall! (i just made that up, i quite like it lol)
It's my belief that no-one can possibly know that at this stage, so because it is all so unknown, he cannot possibly be wrong, and on many points, i believe he is very right (except for his very divisive comments at the end!)
