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Why hasn't Enrique been forced out on a free?

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  1. TJR_NUFC

    TJR_NUFC Well-Known Member

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    What he said on twitter was worse than what Barton said. If your going to blame Barton for this surely you should be demanding that Jose is sacked?

    It's actually unbelievable how some people are still backing Ashley!
     
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    5 Goals 1 Hat Trick 11 Heroes-NUFC4LIFE Well-Known Member

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    I think it's because Enrique is worth more money.
     
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    This, and Joey is easily replaceable in Ashley's eyes, we're up to the eyeballs with midfielders anyway. We'd have to really fork out for a new LB if Jose went.
     
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    People in other threads have said Barton was kicking off over being over looked for the captaincy and being removed from set piece duty on Sunday, maybe that's just been the final straw for the board.

    Also Barton's negative Twitter comments have been pretty consistent throughout the summer where as Enrique's only did one.
     
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  5. Arfa's Left Foot

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    This man!
     
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  6. Rafa's Championship Party

    Rafa's Championship Party Well-Known Member

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    I think its sad how players can get told off for telling the fans the truth, yet we spend lots of money going to watch them most weeks.
     
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    Joey has continually berated the owners on Twitter whilst Jose has only done it once.

    There are other mitigating factors that may have contributed to Joeys transfer listing if the rumours about his antics during the Leeds match are true.
     
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  8. Smudger

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    We can get money for Enrique, but no one had enquired even about Barton. This was done to help him out the door.
     
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  9. Boom Boom Cheik CHeik the Room!

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    As good as joey is he is disruptive and isnt very disciplined, loses his temper and can cause unrest in the dressing room at times, he also has a huge history of bad behaviour and he earns a large wage here no club in their right mind would could afford him would want him because of his image and past. He is also 28 and is at his peak with a year left and has publically stated there is no offer of a new contract so why would any club offer to buy him?

    Jose on the other hand is a rising star who has progressed so much in two years he is actually worth a hell of a lot more than joey is to other clubs hench why we havnt released him or told him he can go. Jose is also seen as part of the future of our club or if not a player who would command a large transfer fee, basically jose is a more valuable asset than joey in a business snese.if joey lowered his wage demands i think everton would take a punt on him.
     
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  10. The Secret Ingredient

    The Secret Ingredient Well-Known Member

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    you can't win on this board if you take a step back look at the facts/reports etc. and come up with an objective view you suddenly become someone who loves/backs ashley tbh i don't think this is the case.Take Ashley out of the picture (say it was any other club or under the hall regime) and say a player has a heated argument during warm up with 2 coaches,refuses to play cos he's not made captain then spits his dummy out when a new player the manager hasn't seen much of in pre season due to visa problems is given the dead ball duties would we still be behind this player?

    there is a difference between the club and the owners they are not one and the same i back the club and any decision i see as good for the club not the ****ing owners
    are you when you buy your season tickets/replica kit etc. backing the club or ashley ????
     
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  11. Masanari

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    Well yesterday I was seething at the board for putting Barton up on a free, but after reading stuff today about all the antics Barton pulled at Leeds and for the last year or so it is easy to see why they are wanting to get rid of him. Barton is a very good player and bring valuable passion and grit to our team which I am very nervous about losing, but if you are constantly berating the owners, having a go at players in the dressing room which included all out new players and some of the young-uns then it is you own fault if the club sees you are a poisonous influence and want to get rid of you. Enrique's rant was his first rant unlike Barton's plus they know they can get money for him unlike Barton.
     
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  12. Boom Boom Cheik CHeik the Room!

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    As good as joey is he is disruptive and isnt very disciplined, loses his temper and can cause unrest in the dressing room at times, he also has a huge history of bad behaviour and he earns a large wage here no club in their right mind would could afford him would want him because of his image and past. He is also 28 and is at his peak with a year left and has publically stated there is no offer of a new contract so why would any club offer to buy him?

    Jose on the other hand is a rising star who has progressed so much in two years he is actually worth a hell of a lot more than joey is to other clubs hench why we havnt released him or told him he can go. Jose is also seen as part of the future of our club or if not a player who would command a large transfer fee, basically jose is a more valuable asset than joey in a business snese.if joey lowered his wage demands i think everton would take a punt on him.
     
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  13. Toon_Tiger

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    No player is bigger than NUFC. Barton or Enrique have no right to do what they have done.. they say they love the club but will slander the owner publicly then go on to talk about lack of ambition.. with these 2 kicking off how they have who in the right mind would even want to come here now. sure things may have been bad but what use is coming out in public like this and dragging our club through the dirt.. people on the outside don't see this and think bad of Ashley.. they think bad of NUFC.

    This summer Barton has had 1 intention.. and that is to cause trouble. if you wanted to play for the club you apparently love you do not make it impossible for the owner to give you a new contract and in turn make it highly impossible to sell the player, as nobody would want him due to his past and the events this summer. Shoot me now but i wish we had just terminated his contract rather than put him up for free...
     
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  14. Voluptuous Vuckic

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    The difference between Enrique and Barton is that clubs were actually interested in Enrique. Also Enrique has vented his anger once, which he was rightly fined for, whereas Barton has done it on numerous occasions. Effectively, Ashley has nothing to lose by offering Barton a free transfer. Since no clubs were interested, Barton would have happily picked up his £55,000 p/w. By giving him a free it increases the chances of Barton leaving, in doing so saving Ashley that £55,000 p/w.

    It seems to me that some people have been blinded by their love for Barton and hatred for Ashley, and then just dive straight in with their opinions. Think some need to take a step back and look at it objectively.

    At no point have I saw anyone defending Ashley. It's well established that he is a prized twat. That goes for all his cronies as well. This is not the debate for ****'s sake. So could we stop with all the **** about people defending Ashley. The debate is about Barton and Barton alone.
     
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    This.

    Just because Ashley's being a twat doesn't mean Barton isn't one too.
     
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    Probably been said but in my opinion there's a couple of reasons behind it, one is that we could still get a decent price for jose where as I dont think anyone would be willing to pay for barton and risk a backlash from fans (remember he's still a hate figure for many) and secondly that we only have one real left back and are well covered in midfield
     
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  17. SirBR

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    Barton will be made to look pretty stupid if nobody comes in for him and left out of the team all together.
     
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  18. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Howay man Overseas they are not mitigating factors. Even if the story is true, its just a run of the mill occurence in football clubs at all level across the land! Players are like this all the time. Think of Sir Alan and wanting the number 9 shirt and the penalties. Players have these little tantrums all the time about who takes free kicks etc. No big deal and certainly not the basis for sacking someone, it should have no bearing on that situation. It is probably more likely to happen when the players are unhappy of course.

    They have sacked him for the twitter stuff alone. This is just Mike flexing his muscles, reminding everyone it is his club. They've wanted him out for a while now, and it can be no coincidence that him, Jose, Nolan and Carroll have gone. All had strong bargaining postitions for new contracts based on performance. The club is trying to reduce costs and the sales fit well into this process.
     
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    Kieran Dyer springs to mind
     
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  20. BlackAndWhiteForever

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    I am the same as a few people on this board it seems. Yesterday I was so angry and thought that it was an unforgivable act by the whole of the upper hierarchy of the club, however after reading todays reports (if they're true) then it seems like totally the correct decision. Also whats the point of keeping a player that you know is gonna leave at the end of the season if they're just gonna disrupt the team at every oppurtunity! That can't be good for team morale either! Also few people remember that before last season Joey was a terrible player at the club, either in prison or injured, even in the championship he was injured most of the season!
    As long as there is a replacement (preferably Barnetta) and I can't see how there can't be now routledge and barton are both going, then i'll feel happier knowing that we still have talent on the right that isn't going to upset everyone on a matchly basis.
     
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