I am not sure how well I can answer your question W-Y but I think you cannot have a genuinely free market of goods and services WITHOUT free movement of not only the goods but also people. If people are not free to move then price distortions can enter the market and distort it. On top of that you also need fiscal and monetary harmonisation for a genuine "single market". Ultimately that is what every individual country has in their own "homogeneous market" and the likes of the USA with 50 States being akin to the 28 State EU it also has it. I have to say that the need for a common currency and fiscal and monetary harmonisation was why my Economics Professor at University (back in the early 70s) was totally against us joining the EEC as it was then. However it was one thing for the growing and expanding United States to achieve this but was always amibitious for the EU to try to create it. As the UK and others have not joined the Euro the goal of a EuroSuperState beloved by the likes of Junkers would always have excluded the UK. From our point of view that ought to have been good enough. I return to an earlier point I made that said that it was sensible for the EU to aim for fee movement of people as a goal but once they started to take on board countries with massively different economic structures they should have found a formula to implement free movement of people of years or even decades. EU intransigence and stupidity meant they effectively shot Cameron in th ehead - which is why Merkel wants Junkers to go I think.
Quite a tough one too. I find it interesting that when I emigrated there, they were simply after people - which was somewhat in my favour as it was the only qualification I possessed. If my wife and I were both to apply now, she would be accepted but I wouldn't. Although we are both teachers, her specialty is the only one of the two that is listed on the Skilled Occupation List - there's a dearth of Early Childhood specialists but an apparent glut of Primary teachers...
Extradition, benefits etc were red herrings. It is about small communities seeing schools, hospitals etc failing to cope. I cannot keep stressing that this is not a pure UK issue Cologne. You appear blind to the dissatisfaction with migrants in many many other EU countries. Far right parties expoit this. You should also consider history - England was always an island - our borders were the sea - countries like Germany and Italy did not even exist until a little over 100 years ago - their history was one of movement of populations. So different from the UK. Here in Selsey in the two years we have been here (South coast England) we have seen the number of migrants explode. From a rare foreign voice we now have people speaking Eastern European languages on the streets all day - many not appearing to have jobs - no small wonder that every poster displayed here was pro Leave and the only two residents I am aware here who voted Remain were Mrs L and myself.
But if they are bolted together and you say that it would have been sensible for the EU to aim for free movement of people, does that mean it should have aimed for a free market as well and not implemented that? I would like to see a controlled movement of people with countries agreeing between them how this should be implemented for their mutual benefits.
Spot on Lenny - but it's not a message well received on this thread. I have been called a racist/xeonophobe/little Englander for much less!
Who's called you a racist? As for a 'xeonophobe', that's ridiculous - who could have a phobia of an Intel-produced chip? please log in to view this image
Movement of people controls itself in an area where there are so many languages. The vast majority of people want to stay in the place where they feel at home and where they can understand the language. Going to another country to work (unless you are doing seasonal fruit picking) involves learning a new language quickly. To begin with you are working well beneath your level, or your qualifications, and only slowly do you attain a similar professional status to that of your homeland. It is not an easy process - I know ! The goal must be not to control movement, but to increase the incentives for people to stay at home.
Sorry W_Y - I am missing your point. Economic theory requires a true single market to be compleely homogeneous - equal taxes, equal currency, equal monetary policy and people
People should not label others - I love cultural diversity - I believe London is one of the greatest cities on Earth thanks to it. The Roman Empire was marvellous because theygave citizenship to all peoples. However people who blind themselves to issues that concern others can inadvertantly feed racism etc. It is a small step from being annoyed that your child did not get into the school of their choice to becoming angry at whose fault it is. Often the fault is our own lack of planning and building additional schools and hospitals etc. We are all naturally protective of our family, our friends, our clubs, our region our country and so on - nothing wrong with that but how great it is to recognise others and engage in friendly rivalry banter and trade etc with others.
One thing I have not seen discussed anywhere is the future of the English language in the EU. Does any country other than the UK have it as their language - if not then surely it will no longer be accepted. Cyprus or Malta may hold the key.
Again spot on. But the lack of planning is made very much worse but having no controls on net immigration numbers. In the past the census was the input to planning, yes there were blips in the past that would cause short terms issues, but in the whole planning worked.
Not quite sure what you mean by accepted? I think it is too deeply ingrained as THE language of business to be pushed aside by another now. Could not say if the desire to learn English as a "first second language" in non-English speaking countries would diminish, but if English remains as the language of business. If you mean how well will English speakers be accepted in the EU, I suppose it depends on the need of that country to have them there.
People going on language learning holidays are relocating to Ireland already. English will continue to be an important language in the EU. partly because it has no accents above letters and can be written on any keyboard. My keyboard is from Germany and I can write on it only in German and English - if I try to write in French or Spanish the letters are not there.
Sorry - I simply meant as an official language of the EU. Of course it is of world importance but the EU has 23 official languages I believe - those of the member states - before we joined English was not an official language in the EEC. The French would dearly love to exclude English given the chance - but perhaps it is now too"worldwide" for them to achieve that
I see many of our Universities are already suffering being dropped from EU funding - no negatives to leaving the EU are there - they were all fabricated
As an official language of the EU. English is to be replaced by Irish English - Juncker is practicing the accent now.
Austrian far-right presidential candidate Norbert Hofer has said he does not want the country to leave the EU. Last month he was suggesting that the country should follow the UK and hold a referendum. Since he has seen the effect of one he has changed his mind. He has now made clear he thinks leaving would be a "mistake".
The sale of Tata Steel's UK business is on hold as the company considers a European tie-up, creating further uncertainty for British steelworkers After a board meeting in Mumbai, the company said it had started discussions with "strategic players in the steel industry" They include the German company Thyssenkrupp. Just another scare story?
