Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

Bloody hell, Peter. Bloody hell.

 

I use the word alleged, because there has been an increase in allegations. That's not doubting the reports, it's simply not prejudging the outcomes. Innocent until proven guilty still applies in this country.

As for your first paragraph, thank you for confirming not all racists voted leave. Perhaps you could explain that to a couple of others that seem to be struggling with that simple fact.

 

Freedom of movement favours non-white countries over darker ones.

A proper, fairer system will enable the nonsense that allows white pickpockets in over qualified nurses from darker countries to be corrected.

 

I see that age must be affecting your memory love, as you've consistently queried whether the stats are both factual and are actually a result of Brexit, here's a brief reprise of what you've actually posted;

Have hate crimes been created off the back of the Brexit? Were they around before?

Yes there is an increase, it follows a long term trend. It is also described as a perception

You're welcome.

 

Nope. I'm saying I prefer an immigration system that's based on ability rather than geography.

 

Look at these charming remainiacs

You're all oh so much better than us aren't ya?

Brainwashed scum. What a pathetic generation they really are.

 

Is that it? You did notice the questions marks, didn't you?

Those words you have underlined are from what YOU quoted. That's okay, though, By the way, don't quote snippets out of context, it displays the seriously ****ish side of you.

 

Anyway, gold is up in price again.

If you have a wedding ring, it will soon be worth more than your house.

 

By the time deals are ready to be finalised, Freedom of movement to EU citizens could be a side element if other countries leave, which is a real possibility.

 

**** me Pete, I don't usually wade into these "tit for tat" arguments, but you are embarrassing yourself now.

 

This is where the mask slowly slips I'm afraid. In the minds of some, the brexit vote legitimises that ignorant viewpoint

It's no surprise that ppl also feel it's legitimate to racially abuse ppl since the result either. It's simply an extension of the same mindset.

 

Yep, it's no different to saying that you don't like Muslims. How can you dislike someone/everyone you know nothing about other than the fact that they follow a certain religion?

 

It's interesting to see how abusive some people are when claiming that abuse is wrong.

 

Don't know mate, you'd have to ask Custard that one.

 

Yeah,

They don't make ATM thieves like they used to
My god you are a moron.
Romanian ATM thieves
This is your worry? In this day and age?
That the person stealing your local ATM may not be a Brit? HAHA

 

You've lost a lot of money on your house mate.

12k....Tobes thinks you should know @petersaxton

 

Looks like a right smug ****.

 

Fancy a moron calling somebody who is intelligent a moron!
I said it was an example - I suppose you dont know what an example is?
A banana isn't an example of something you buy from the EU
We cannot deport a Romanian if he is found guilty of ATM theft. When we leave the EU we will be able to deport them. We will then also be able to not allow career criminals into the country. That wasn't too easy for an intelligent person to understand but I am sure it was impossible for a moron to understand - and you have provided the perfect example.

 

First of all I have never thrown the rise in racist abuse at those who voted out and have said that I do not think everyone voting out was a racist or even right wing ... I have pointed out at least once that several socialist groups and a left wing trade union campaigned to leave.
Secondly I took issue in your claim that those raising the rise in racism were making good things worse.
Thirdly, your view that racism will always exist is a view I do not share...people didn't think there would ever be an end to slavery or universal sufferage or an end to apartheid in south Africa etc so hopefully racism can be also ended.
Fourthly I have followed the thread from the beginning and have not thrown any lazy allegations at any out voters and do not believe my views are lazy, stupid or false so me and my views will not **** off.
Fifthly I am not responsible for other people's posts.
Finally, many of us have faced racism for years. We do not hold every or even most white people responsible for the actions of racist ****wits. Lots of us feared any out vote would see a rise in racism and unfortunately this has happened. It's not an academic argument to me. I do not want any more phone threads to burn me and my family out of our house. I do not want to receive more hate mail with razor blades attached through the mail. I do not want my white partner to be called a race traitor and worse for being with me. I do not want to have to threaten to beat the **** out of a racist **** for abusing my daughters. All these things happened up until 7 or 8 yrs ago...simply cos I did a lot of anti racist campaigning work in my local community with my union.
I have not told you to **** off even though you disagree with me so wind your neck in and do not do it to me.

 

I have lost a lot of money? Where has it gone?
I don't think you understand this losing money thing. If I am not planning to sell my house it doesn't matter whether the value goes up or down. Latest valuations I had, just out of interest from estate agent family, friends and clients is that my house has gone up 535% in the 16 years I have lived in it. If it goes down 1.5% in two weeks I dont really care - but then I am not one of those idiots who panics several times a day.