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  1. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Real Betis are on the verge of making a £5million-plus profit on the sale of Sunderland old boy Alfred N'Diaye.Midfielder N'Diaye moved to Spanish side Betis two years ago in a deal worth around £1million after then Sunderland boss Gus Poyet opted to offload the Senegal international.

    Poyet took charge at Betis this summer and is going to offload N'Diaye for a second time, although this sale will be for big money.

    Betis are understood to have agreed a fee of around £6.5m with fellow La Liga outfit Villarreal for the 26-year-old.

    That's twice as much as the £3m Sunderland originally paid for N'Diaye in January 2013 after Martin O'Neill brought in the powerful midfielder.

    Successor Paolo Di Canio didn't rate N'Diaye and sanctioned his loan exit after just six months at the Stadium of Light, before Poyet rubber-stamped his permanent departure.
     
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    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    I read this earlier....just frightening how much money we waste..With this guy I was surprised, I actually rated him and couldn't believe we sold him so cheap.
     
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    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    We actually paid about 3.5m for him if i remember rightly and sold him soon after for 2m.
    How many players have we ever actually made money on ?
     
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  4. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Yes i rated him too and i had many arguments with people on here who didnt. He had balls of Steel. Something we lacked serverly when we loaned him out and then sold him on a year later.

    He was only about 23 when we had him. He would and obviously has got better given time.
     
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    Ah, we made a few quid on Bellion..................
     
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    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Obviously Ming,Bent and Jones spring to mind.
    Id love to see a list for of the prices for players bought and sold over the last 10 years though.
     
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    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Jack Colback - might not have got physical money but the entertainment value alone in the numerous quotes when he joined "them" are worth more than gold!!
     
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    There you go @Bri OBE a challenge for you <laugh>
     
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    We also made money on Henderson, Altidore - still can't believe that one :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  10. Brian Storm

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    Few reasons why I can't. 1. prices vary from source to source. 2. We don't seem to disclose most of our deals, and 3. We're a club obsessed with deals where extra fees are triggered at milestones.

    Ultimately, It's impossible mate. I could come up with a figure based on hearsay but it's likely to be not even close. :p
     
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    RTB Well-Known Member

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    Well the club debt has gone up again to we can't be doing much right in terms of profitable transfers.
     
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    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    How much of our debt is down to the hiring and firing too? Entire management teams, DoF and investment in infrastructure to satisfy each of these parties. I massive wedge I reckon when you look at our staff turnover. Every person who's been fired have been entitled to the the entire value of the contracts. So at times we could quite easily have costs for 2 or 3 management teams at once. MoN/PDC/Poyet were sacked with their own team in a very short space of time, by the time Dick came in we'll have been paying contracts up for like 4 management teams in 2 seasons. That's got to hit the finances hard.
     
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    Yeah absolute shambles - No way to run a business <doh>
     
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  14. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Some think Shiort can't do any wrong but if he's not responsible for this then who is? It's his company, if it went bust it's not his staff's company which is going into liquidation, it's his. He's taken some awful advice along the way, he listened to it and implemented this advice. It's often talked like we should be grateful at the time and money he's putting in to keep us afloat . Personally I think undoing your own mistakes is the absolute minimum I expect.
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    Betis paid around £20 million for Denilson ......... they'd have been better off with Altidore.

    He'll have cost them upwards of £30 million by the time you add in his wages.

    All clubs make mistakes or sign players that just don't work.
     
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