Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

This seems to be full of name calling followed by a listing of lies by Remain people followed by pathetic attempts to justify their lies. For example: "60,000 to 80,000 people dying because of the Fit To Work programme." Clear lie with no evidence at all.
When the UK leaves the EU and doesn't have to accept freedom of movement they will have found something else to rant and lie about. It's what they do.

 

Tell you what, Pete, when this little fantasy world of yours arrives, you notify us. Ok?

In the meantime, I'll carry on dealing with the real world.

 

In the real world....

Migrants crossing the Med rise by 60 per cent in a year: More than 227,000 estimated to have arrived in Europe since start of 2016.

Papers talk about UTD and no other team

 

Yes, well if the US and, to an extent, the UK would stop ****ing their countries up, maybe a lot more of them would be happy to stay at home?...

 

Very true, but most are sub Sahara and nothing to do with USA and UK

 

You total bitch
I prefer to think of myself as a a bit of a muscular Clooney type but Mrs RCL thinks that's more than a little bullshit!

 

Who?

 

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Yep but not on the terms Gove or Nigel wanted.

 

SoS will be a Brexiter, so will be close. That will include no open border for EU nationals.

 

But leaving the EU will stop that? Ok Einstein!

 

Which is all you're interested in as the sub Saharans (who aren't in the EU) scare you.

Nicely edited Custard!

 

What? Have you told Iraq, Syria, Libya that they're sub Sahara??

They're in the Middle East, and for one reason or another we've been ****ing those countries up!...the people, not unnaturally, have gotten tired of having their houses blown up with them still inside and have decided to get the **** out!...

 

I never said that all those concerned were all racists and on this thread people have simply argued that voting out based on immigration which is regularly hyped and lied about was a mistake and wrong. You can disagree but both arguments are dependent on your point of view so yours isn't a fact.

As for racist incidents returning to normal if people stopped making false claims and repeating them over and over again ...this is bollocks. Racist attacks increased because racist ****s think they have a right to attack both ( verbally and physically ) those people they hate. People arguing on the remain side are not making the situation worse and "not helping " or by expressing their views. Making an issue of the rise in racism is vital otherwise the racist ****s will believe they can do what they want. I also do not understand why you object to people of different political view points condemning the rise in racism...surely this condemning is a positive thing.

You constantly deny the validity of other people's views screaming about their facts being wrong yet you throw your views around and demand they be treated as facts cos your sources are true cos you believe them to be so.

 

Spot on, rcl!...

 

If it's a out sticking to fa ts;

It's a fact that not all of the alleged incidents of Race hate involve brexit voters.

It's a fact not all be it voters saw immigrants as a problem.

It's a fact that some Remain voters saw immigration as a problem.

It's a fact that the current immigration policy is disriminatory

It's a fact the UK has voted to leave the EU.

It's a fact politicians are saying we should accept the democratic choice of the people.

It's a fact we're not seeing WW3.

 

Such as the lies you stated and I quoted? Strange sense of "reality" you got.

 

And what 'lies' are these, Pete??....

 

Details, details.