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Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Rorschach, Jul 24, 2011.

  1. Kyle?

    Kyle? New Member

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    What is your problem with mark webber? Seriously, did he kidnap your family or something?
     
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  2. Rorschach

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    it would be more interesting if alonso and vettel were 5/6th on the grid THEN we'd see how good they both were!
     
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  3. Kyle?

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    Alonso would win, Vettel would crash.
     
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    I think you are confusing Vettel with Piquet, being ordered to crash as only that will enable Alonso to secure a win.
     
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  5. colinsmith11

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    There are examples of supreme overtaking by Seb this year.
    1) On his outlap in Barcelona he overtook 3 cars in one lap!!
    2) In Austalia he pulled a ruthless and incredible move on Jenson.

    There are examples of him overtaking, yes he might not be as good as Alonso but he CAN overtake!!!!
     
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  6. colinsmith11

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    p.s. webber is rubbish at overtaking too. australia 2010 he careered into hamilton, he couldnt even overtake a slow lotus in valencia without crashing as well as numerous other terrible attempts
     
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  7. TheModestMatt

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    Bad examples i'm afraid,

    Both were situations where when Seb had brand spanking new tyres and the others which he overtook were on tyres that were around 15 laps older.

    Sebs a fast driver, but overtaking is not his strong point.
     
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  8. colinsmith11

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    just to prove he can overtake, you would of seen his very good move on Fernando Alonso, one of the toughest people to pass, at Hungary yesterday!!!
     
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  9. Delete Me

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    Yup on the outside with the prime tyre, with Fernando using the option.
     
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  10. wakka2

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    vettel is the best driver in f1 imo. he isnt world champion for no reason and 88 pointds clear this season. can't just be the car or webber would be doing better. in fact the mclaren has been faster in more races this season than the red bull has

    6-4 wins in red bulls favour yet monaco is was clear button was faster and without saftey car would of won and the race before where vettel defended brilliantly to deny hamilton who was faster also. should be 6-4 mclaren
     
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  11. colinsmith11

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    Exactly!!! On slower tyres he still manged to pass probably the toughest racer on the track!!
     
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  12. Eat Sleep Watch F1 Repeat

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    Would Vettel beat Hamilton or Alonso if they had equal cars? I would say no.
     
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  13. tomcat606

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    I would say yes. So what?
     
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  14. Eat Sleep Watch F1 Repeat

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    If all 3 had equal performance cars in a season then maybe we would find out how good all 3 of them are. It would be interesting to see.
     
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    I think he knows he just has to manage the gap and score good points.
     
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  16. di Fredsta!

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    Well by the looks of it the primes were actually quicker. Pretty much everyone (with similar cars) on the primes were quicker than the people on options.
     
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  17. Delete Me

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    Did it a few times already this season...
     
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  18. Kyle?

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    I would say yes, if he started in front of them on the grid.
     
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  19. SgtBhaji

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    That's pushing the truth quite a bit I feel. The Red Bull has clearly been the class of the field with the others struggling to match it's overall performance.

    Clearly Red Bull have lost some of that advantage recently. Whether that's down to current driver attitude or simply that RBR are hiting the development limits of the RB7 is a matter of debate.

    Hamilton has been far from his best this season, if he were, then maybe we'd have a closer championship fight, but McLaren have still had a lot of playing catch-up to do.

    I think the problem is that some people struggle to see any weekness in the drivers they support, where in fact most drivers have weekness. In my opinion, if Vettel.could improve the fighting and overtaking aspect of his driving, he would be truly formidable and all others on the current grid would be in trouble.

    He's young... he's still developing so don't take observations and criticism of his driving personally. Nobody is saying he's a bad driver, just that there's room for improvement. Be happy that there's more to come.
     
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  20. Kyle?

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    I'm a big Kamui Kobayashi fan and i can admit that he's hopeless at qualifying. Why can't others say the same about their drivers.
     
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