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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. West Kent Saint

    West Kent Saint Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that kind of stuff. A quick buck and millions of miserable souls. Hard to fathom.
     
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  2. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Referring to Blair again, here is an example of him thinking clearly and hitting the nail on the head about Brexit. He's still capable of seeing the wood from the trees. Something he used to do particularly well as PM in internal matters. Ordinary people might think and say the same thing about this, but I haven't heard one politician refer to it in this way: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36698055

    This was 52-48%, not 70-30 or even 60-40% [video] : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36697799
     
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  3. ImpSaint

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  4. ImpSaint

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    Of course it depends on how you view it as if he is thinking clearly. There are things that I read that I think are obviously sensible thinking but someone else might not see it that way.

    My opinion is that I would expect Blair to say what he is saying just as many others against Brexit would voice similar ideas. On the flip of course I would expect most in favour to rule out anything near a u-turn or even a consideration on limiting what Brexit meant to many.

    We can see the same in the Tory leadership race where Osborne's continuity candidate Theresa May is using language that is worrying those that voted Brexit and that is why Tory remainers are trying to force through a coronation rather than May have to go to the membership. She would have narrowly beaten Boris even with Gove's support in the members vote but she would most likely be beaten by Leadsom as things stand at the moment. Showing her cards as being puppeteered by Osborne in the last week has lost her a lot of membership support and they are thinking that she is now not to be trusted.

    You might see that as "clearly thinking" just like Blair because she is hinting at the same sort of things but that is because Osborne is the mastermind behind the Tory victories in the past 2 elections and is a very shrew operator. Whether he is as shrewd as Gove who has grown in power the last year is another matter but I think we will have a female PM and very soon. If Leadsom comes second on Tuesday the others will drop out and the 2 ladies will go to the membership vote and I suspect the new PM in situ way before September 9th.

    Leadsom is the likely winner of that one.
     
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    Leadsom scares me more then May. Crazy religious lady.
     
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  6. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    I saw her saying she 'positively abstained' from the vote but that she still 'believes' in 'gay love'.

    <doh>
     
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  7. Beef

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    Yep. She said she ticked both boxes because god doesn't believe in same sex marriage, but it wasn't up to her to decide what others do. Then go on and talk about god for another ten mins.
     
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    I'm sure the gay community can rest easy tonight in the knowledge that she 'believes in' the existence of 'gay love'.

    Isn't it just love?

    Unless that's a new range of emotions available to gay people: gay love, gay angry, gay frustrated, gay sombre, gay amused...
     
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    Least she hasn't said homosexuality can be cured by pills like Crabb yet...
     
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  10. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Any Tory politician scares the living **** out of me these days, because they're all once again coming from a right wing so far out there one needs binoculars to seem them coming [I exaggerate very slightly for humorous effect]. It's a irony that Cameron seems almost acceptable, now that he's going. There is nobody of substance filling the centralist democrat hole in politics since Clegg made the position a no-go zone.
     
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  11. Saints_Alive

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    Gay gay?
     
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    I didn't know she was referring to the Great Usain Bolt!! Well, he does have some God-like qualities, doesn't he?
     
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  14. The Ides of March

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    Is this the next UK PM? IMG_2233.JPG
     
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  15. ImpSaint

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    Looks like my greyhound.
     
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  16. ImpSaint

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    Farage has just stood down as leader of UKIP!!!!
     
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  17. Number 1 Jasper

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    How long for this time !
     
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  18. ImpSaint

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    For good. His words are much different to last time and more personal reasoning. No doubt there has been pressure from within UKIP that contributed but it is for good this time.
     
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    Hope so . Who next then ? Or is it better the Devil you know ?
     
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  20. ImpSaint

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    Doesn't matter who in my mind. Love him or hate him Farage was the driving force of UKIP and they will struggle to maintain an upward curve without him. Happy days for those of us that were worried about UKIP.

    Money has to be on Carswell. He won't have to diplomatically skirt around all the things he doesn't agree with now.
     
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