I think what people take issue with is usually when Lewis runs Nico out of road (right or wrong), it's more gradual. He still makes the apex then closes the gap to push Nico wide. There have been some moments where it's been over the line too, he isn't always blameless. But today Nico didn't even try and make the corner until very very late. That's over the line and then some. Again not defending Lewis, as he does make some brainless moves too though I don't recall him ever doing one quite as deliberately aggressive as what Nico has done today.
Wolff now saying Nico had a rear brake failure on main straight!!!! Some how he managed to get round turn 1 and team didn't bother to tell him of brake safety issue!!! I think not......
Toto added that they weren't allowed to tell Niko either over the radio which is bull! The FIA would not ban radio contact for something that could potentially be dangerous. I think Toto was caught out in the heat of the moment by the media.
I agree 100% that's why I said I think Nico was deliberate. However the out come of having nowhere to go is the same, deliberate or not. As most will know on here I have an issue with the rules and how they are interpreted differently by differing stewards. The rules over complicate a lot of these issues, and we have all pulled similar collisions with differing drivers which have had different outcomes. For me when you are on the outside you are at the mercy of what the other drivers do - that has always been the criticism of Nico. It's unwritten rule in racing.
"It's not official yet but the first word in the press room is that Nico Rosberg has been given a reprimand for finishing the race with a damaged car but a ten-second timed penalty for causing the crash with Hamilton. The fifth-placed Daniel Ricciardo finished over ten seconds behind Nico so that penalty, if applied, would not affect his result " From Sky's news feed.
"It's now official: Nico Rosberg has been given a ten-second timed penalty for causing the crash with Lewis Hamilton and handed two penalty points on his licence. He does, however, keep fourth place and remains eleven points clear in the world championship"
If true that shows again how inept the stewards are. Every race we see cars driving back to the pits with 3 wheels or a missing wing? If they believe Nico was at fault then exclude him, not issue him with a bullshit pointless penalty!
Interesting that the people who can see all the data (braking, steering angles) from previous laps decided it was Nico's fault! It did look like Nico's fault but without data we don't have the whole picture.
I have to agree with that, there is no point penalising a driver if it doesn't actually penalise him.
I think the penalty would have been more severe if LH had not gone on to win. If Rosberg took the corner normally Hamilton would have had to drive on him up to turn 3. However, Unknown to Rosberg, with Perez crashing there would have saved him his win as Hamilton would have been unable to pass him under yellows.
You have to hope the team punish him. But I doubt they will. His actions have caused the team to loose valuable points, well I say valuable, they may not be valuable at the end of the season but only time will tell. My guess is the team orders will come in to say who ever in front after last pit stop stays in front unless team instruct otherwise. Maybe this wont be enough and they will have to extend to who ever is in front on grid stays in front....
Very strange decision, label him guilty then apply a penalty they know to be irrelevant. There obviously has to be consistency between events, but I seem to recall many drivers getting harsher penalties for similar events. Very surprised it was only 10 seconds, and not more time or a grid penalty for the next race.
Rosberg pretty much penalized himself there anyway. Not much need for anything else but a bit of a slap on the wrists. Bit of a problem for the team now, because these two are touching way too often these days.
"The stewards verdict in full: For the reprimand - "The driver continued on the track with a damaged car spreading debris and with the front wing detached" but recognition of extenuating circumstances, that he slowed down and tried to mitigate risk to other drivers and cars. For the ten-second penalty for causing a collision - "Having taken note of the extensive evidence given by both drivers and the video and telemetry data, it was apparent that Car 44 (HAM) was in front of Car 6 (ROS) – i.e. more than fully alongside – and that the driver of Car 44 could have clearly made the turn (T2) on the track, if not for the resultant collision. Car 6 did not allow Car 44 “racing room” and hence the driver of Car 6 was responsible for the collision." "But Rosberg has just been giving his verdict on the stewards' decision, speaking live in a video to his fans on Facebook: "They gave me the blame, which sucks. I respect that, but I am of a different opinion. But that doesn't help.""
Well, he's obviously blinded or deluded. I would like to see comparisons of when he turned in on previous laps.
Lewis does my head in and he has had one or two questionable altercations with Nico too, but the problem this time was that Nico didnt even turn enough to make the corner himself! He was quite blatant. Remember as well here that frankly but for a Mercedes strategy fumble, he'd have been about 10s up the road and Nico had more than enough pace for 2nd. Yet again, Ferrari and Red Bull have some strategy questions to answer around Seb and Dan Ricc. I missed a few early laps and Danny Ricc had gone from comfortably ahead of Max to some way behind him after the first stops- what happened there? I also thought Raikonnen was piss poor today despite the podium. The pace he had in that car he should have been fighting for a win- instead he was about to be 4th until the two Merc collided. His general lack of giving a **** has now gone from quite funny to incredibly disrespectful IMO. He's being hammered by his teammate pace wise and we've got the likes of Hulkenberg, Perez, Button fighting to get anything they can from their **** heaps. I'd love Jenson to sign a two year deal at Maranello and race Vettel. He's raced Lewis, he;s raced Fernando- he may as well do two years with Seb before calling it a day?! I suspect he'd be signing a number 2 contract (a la Mansell) but boy I'd love him in what is a pretty quick all round car, if not necessarily quite Mercs match yet.
well, well, well, how the positions are reversed depending on where Hamilton is on the track. looked to me like there was still plenty of track on the left of Hamilton, does this mean they are going to retroactivly apply the same penaltiesto Hamilton for how many times he has done exactly the same as Rosberg did. The fix is in, the golden goose must lay it;s golden egg. People should really go and watch hungary 14
Rosberg made no attempt to make the apex. on car camera shows his wheel was straight when he would normally turn in. Deliberate move, car issue or mistake?
Deliberate for me, as he then tries to block Lewis off rejoining the track for a second time. Rosberg has no integrity whatsoever IMHO.
