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Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?

  1. In

    54.1%
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    45.9%
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  1. Tobes

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    No, they've ****ed it clean off, here's the response on the petition;

    The Petitions Committee decided not to debate this petition
    The Petitions Committee decided not to schedule a debate on this petition because it doesn’t have the power to schedule a debate on the type of motion that could trigger a general election.


    The Government and Prime Minister have never sought to mislead the public. Nonetheless, the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act, which came into force in 2011 under the Coalition Government, removed the power to set the general election date, and therefore to call an early general election, from the Government and gave a power to the House of Commons to call an early general election in certain circumstances.
    An early general election can only be called under the Act if either a motion (as worded in section 2(2) of the Act) that there shall be an early parliamentary general election is passed by the House of Commons with at least two thirds in favour of the motion; or if a motion of no confidence (as worded in section 2(4) of the Act) is passed by the House of Commons and the House does not pass a motion of confidence (as worded in section 2(5) of the Act) in the Government or an alternative Government within 14 days. Aside from these triggers there is no way to replace the Government through an early General Election.
     
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    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Thanks Tobes. ****ing sick of these twats Boris is next PM no doubt that's terrifying.
     
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  3. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    The Remain campaign reminds me of the Sheffield Wednesday fans. Before the match they were discussing face painting and inflatables and how they had a right to get promoted. Hull City comprehensively dominated them and it was only due to a good goalkeeping display and the usual poor finishing that we only won 1-0. Afterwards the Sheffield Wednesday fans said they were proud of how all the fans stayed in their places to watch their players collect their losers medals when in reality they didn't even wait for Hull City players to collect the trophy and medals.
    The only difference is most of the lies by the Remainers were before the main even and the childishness was afterwards.
    They feel on safer ground now by commenting on events that wont happen until well in the future. They'll be proved wrong in the future but they are wrong now.
     
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    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    100k but it was a petition that didnt fall within the rules.
     
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  5. Tobes

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    If it wasn't so terrifying it'd be hilarious.

    The man is a bumbling buffoon, but probably representative of the Nation at present.
     
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  6. Sweats

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    We vote for a party. No different to Gordon brown taking over from Blair.

    I personally want boris to get it now. See him bumble his way through it all. And see him squirm when he meets merkel. The only positive about virus is he know ms how to look after London. As without the money it generates we'd all be ****ed.
     
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  7. Archers Road

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    I don't see it that way. I live in London, and in my borough (Haringey) I probably am in a bit of a minority being a white English Londoner whose parents were also born in London. I have absolutely no problem with that. Neither does my son or my niece and nephew, nor my cousins kids; and it's their future we just betrayed because thick racist mongs from the ****hole towns freak out when a Polski Sklep opens up between Poundland and Betfred.
     
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    Perfectly!...<laugh>
     
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    When I moved to London 40 odd years ago I was in an economics night class and the lecturer decided to ask questions about the UK. None of the Londoners had a clue where any place was outside London. Their lack of knowledge was frightening.
     
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    I accept that the Conservative party is in power. But a choice between those two wastes of oxygen for PM, is no choice at all!...
     
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    I'm sure the more sensible people who vote on these things will make a good choice of the next leader of the Conservative Part.
     
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  12. Archers Road

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    I still don't know where Lichtenstein is, so perhaps you're right.
     
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  13. Tobes

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    Statesmanlike? <laugh>

    You mean the PM chucking his teddy the morning after the vote and since refusing to action article 50 - as he said he would - and instead lobbing the grenade for Boris to catch?

    Oh aye, positively statesmanlike that.
     
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  14. HRH Custard VC

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    Lichtenstein is just below Stuttgart

    I knew that honest <whistle>
     
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    The thing I don't get about the talk about the influx of foreigners getting too much and we can't talk is a) people in this country voted for a party that has cut public services to the bone and is strangling the NHS to death so they can privatise it - they knew that would happen when they voted for them so why blame anyone else? This party has also created a mental health crisis through cuts, killed tens of thousands of disabled people, forced millions to food banks and created a affordable housing crisis.

    b) we have an aging population as the baby boomers retire, people live longer and have less children. I've heard it said that we need 7 working people to pay enough taxes for each pension claiming pensioner. We had a crisis in the late 90s going through to the early 00s where we didn't have enough working age people in the country. Particularly as a greater number of graduates/young professionals are moving abroad to work. We need to import working age people to cover this gap. Of course this raises the population even more, but without them we'd face even bigger problems with higher taxes for working age people to cover the cost of the non-tax paying OAPs (besides things like VAT ect).

    As such a big reason our population is increasing is because people are living longer and we have an aging population which needs an influx of working age people to balance out. This is borne out by the massive benefit immigrants bring to our economy (£8bn reportedly).

    But none of this matters as we've just voted to get rid of our veto for the Schengen area and for Free Movement, so we need to go back to the drawing board to negotiate a deal with a stronger partner who we've just peed off.
     
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    It makes sense that if you are resigning then the important decisions should be made by your successor. I dont expect you to understand that. But it's how sensible people behave.
     
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    Now is a good place to start, as that is what we have been discussing, but if you want to touch on what you think will happen when we trigger Article 50, then that is fine - after all, it will only be an opinion, won't it?
     
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    Tory party in chaos. Hilarious.
     
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    To just choose one point: how are the government "strangling the NHS to death"?
     
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    "PM resigns - cabinet minister makes bid to be elected as PM"
    How do you translate that as "Tory party in chaos"?
    Oh, you mean being democratic?
    I'm glad nobody respects your opinion. It seems to be upside down when compared to all sensible people.
     
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