Sorry, I stopped posting on here because people like Vic saw me as the problem. How is that any different to any of the Brexit lies? We're not going to waltz into negotiations because Germans want to sell us cars. We're not going to get access to the Free Market without uncontrolled immigration. We're not going to repeal most EU laws. We're not going to stop funding the EU. Brexiters are refusing to accept the reality of their choice, just clinging on to random unbased assertions and hoping it'll work out ok.
While I was sat in a traffic jam this afternoon, I thought how like the current situation is to my first season as a small boy being a Watford fan. The very first game I ever went to we won by a narrow margin. On that basis I thought we had to be the best team in the division, and would walk promotion. It didn't quite turn out like that. We finished up having to apply for re-election to the league, and by the grace of the other clubs we were allowed to stay in for another season. Just shows how much I knew then about how things can change very quickly in football, but the same can be said about politics. To carry the analogy on, the country at present doesn't even have a team, still trying to get people to sign up. There are rumours that a big guy, who is rather overweight could be chosen to lead the line, supported by a right winger who failed to win over any fans at the previous clubs who signed him up for short spells. At present there is no idea about what tactics can be used, as there are so many different people wanting different things. Already we know that the first fixture is against a team that has been together for some time, and is very experienced. Surely though you will let us win that match? No way, comes the reply. You will have to play by the rules that the other teams in the division play by, or you can go and form your own Sunday league and play against the teams in it. The season coming up is going to be unusual as it is going to be played over two years. Are we going to meet the other teams with a chance of staying up? No idea if we can, but to expect us to come out on the winning side with maximum points, is like a small boy standing behind an iron railing thinking that his home team was the best in the world. How often has one small victory turned sour over a period when you look back and think how ill-founded your views were?
"We're not going to waltz into negotiations because Germans want to sell us cars" - Britain & Germany will enter negotiations on a trade agreement because Germans DO NEED to sell us cars.
We will be dealing with the EU, not just Germany. Wasn't one of your complaints about the EU that nothing gets done quickly?
Oh dear, the ambition is getting in the way of what is best for the country. To be expected I suppose. Justice Secretary Michael Gove, explaining his decision to stand for Conservative leader, says he has "reluctantly" come "to the conclusion that Boris cannot provide the leadership or build the team for the task ahead".
I think if the result is legalised by parliament we will end up... if common sense prevails... eventually... with something similar but we will be 'out' ... .the BREXITERS will be happy, the Remainers will be breathing sighs of relief...... and for the common citizen on the ground not much will change... certainly they will be no better off. Face will be saved.... and, fingers crossed , BoJo will have a minor cabinet post dealing with our EU relation PS let's face it none of us know...... so the call for evidence is a tad disingenuous... PPS Toby: Chess !!!!!
Robinson's rule of leadership elections - if someone would die happy if they stopped you then you're in trouble. Healey, Hessa, Portillo. Yesterday the Boris/Gove combination was being described as a dream team by some exit MPs. I wait to see what their comments are today, and no doubt they will have yet another view tomorrow. What we have is a right wing coup of the Tory Party in which the voters have been used as cannon fodder.
With or without Brexit the poor will still be poor the rich will still be rich and the English will still be blaming foreigners.
Here's a question W_Y..... would you buy euros today or in 10 days? The analysts I have read suggest the market has strengthened because of hopes the UK will do a deal with the EU... and when it becomes apparent not ... the markets and the pound will fall again. Serious and practical question as Mme has to take some dosh over to France in July....
Well that is him out of the running then if he has a suspect wife. If she told him to go into any meeting with Boris with advisors, what does it say about Boris? This is not about leading the country forward, it is about ambition.
I think that Brexit will be legalised and all sides will quickly come to the conclusion that everyone has more to lose than gain by not negotiating in a sensible and mature manner. I think that if the EU institutions are seen as not working in this way the EU countries will apply huge pressure on them to behave - it is the countries that after all have everything to lose. In the short term I don't believe the EU will move on insisting that free access to the common market to trade has to be linked to allowing other EU citizens to live and work in the UK will change and that trade will have to be based on a separate trade agreement. But I really believe that in the longer term, restrictions on the ability to freely live and work with the EU will have to be applied - a 60 year old aspiration is becoming outdated in the modern world.
Yes I did know that, and it makes you wonder if some of her writing has been done to help her husband. Another reason not to believe all you read in the press.
Good question - personally I would wait until next week as I think a lot of the immediate uncertainty will have settled - the Tory leader campaign will have started and the focus will be on that - and everyone will realise that not much is going to happen Brexit wise overnight. I am going to order some more currency this morning for collection next week, so I am as hopeful as you!
