Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

I.

 

You keep making massive assumptions about money. Two of the reasons why we voted to leave the EU were because we didn't want free movement or paying contributions. I doubt we would agree to either in the future.

 

How are we going to get a free trade deal with no tariff and no free movement?

Norway pay 85% of what we already do and have free movement, why the **** are the EU going to give us a tariff free access to their market, when they've never done anything remotely similar to a European country in the past?

It's delusional to think that's even remotely possible.

How does your wife feel about this issue btw?

 

The scare stories are nonsense. Just like the idea that the Remain people were going to win the referendum. One after another your guesses will be cast aside. Some people love to talk about the future as if they know what is going to happen. Give sensible reasons why they will happen and don't say that it's because somebody said it will. Angela Merkel could be out of power next year because of problems with immigrants and messing with potential exports as well as having to fund a large part of the Eurozone.

 

Well done genius!

 

No, I am not. Everything to me professionally is an objective numbers game.
What is the bottom line to the UK, as things have to paid from somewhere.

If the numbers look ok, then the other stuff (creeping federalism and unaccountable politniks, no fine-tuning of
acceptable legislation etc) is a bonus to me.

 

So without free movement we won't have access to free trade which will be bad for business, the economy and the country. So we'll be poorer.

Which is why Leave reneged on the promises to NHS funding within seconds of winning the referendum. Some stupid people believed them!

 

You've asked two questions and made one statement; that's strangely in proportion to the number of ears and mouth you should have and a good rule of thumb in many meeting scenarios is listen in that proportion.

Unfortunately you've got cauliflower ears and are using your mouth for constant burping. Are you really that ****ing thick, do you not read the news, listen to comment, try and understand what it is you are being constantly ridiculous about?

"Why would randoms from across the globe choose to sign that petition?" You really couldn't make that up .. only you,Tobes, could be that ****ing thick.

 

We will negotiate
You have to get your facts straight. Iceland has a free trade agreement with the EU. There's many others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_free_trade_agreements

 

Why do you say we wont have access to free trade without free movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_free_trade_agreements
Leave hasn't reneged on any promises. The NHS funding is not due to happen until we leave the EU. See what happens then.

 

I don't understand your statement/reasoning. I mean do you seriously think every single person in the whole country is going to going a protest at 48 hours notice? Even the anti-Iraq war protest that had massive support across the whole country got 3m to march in London with a long set up and lots of publicity before hand. I think you are confused at the nature of protests/gatherings if you think that is the case. The petition isn't flawed that is nonsense, it is the most popular petition EVER and has done it within 48 hours!!! 4million people signing the same petition is not insignificant. Tens of thousands of people who care so deeply about this issue and the attacks on their fellow citizens that they are willing to come together in the rain at short notice up and down the country is not insignificant! Just because you say it is, doesn't make it so.

If you don't think that there isn't serious concern up and down the country about Brexit, people's jobs under threat, their friends and family who may face deportation, the huge increase in racial attacks and the countries swing to the far right, which has kicked off grass roots movements, protests, gatherings, petitions and rallies among other things then I can't help you see the obvious I'm afraid.

 

Because we're out, we don't get to choose, they do - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36659900

The problem is too many Englanders are stupid and arrogant enough to believe that the world will just do what they tell them to do. We're just not that important. The days of the Empire are long gone!

 

She voted Leave too.

 

"... a fact is really just an opinion in comfortable shoes..."

Jean-Paul Sartre

 

Hysterical over reaction with a few lies thrown in.

 

So you dont understand the concept of negotiation?

 

You really are an angry little wastrel aren't you lad.

If you'd have engaged what little mental capacity that you actually possess, and thought about what I actually said for a second before ramming your fat fingers onto the keyboard in yet another brainless rant. You'd have maybe concluded that I was dismissing the petition as worthless anyway, but it does clearly demonstrate the strength of feeling - irrespective of whether some of the total aren't genuine UK citizens, as the vast majority will be.

In any case, quite what is so ludicrous about asking what the motives would be for those without a vested interest in this vote signing that petition?

 

Can you add up?

Seriously

 

@Spurlock ..wake up ... no time for dreams of cheesecake ... you are missing all the fun ...

 

No answer then