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Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?

  1. In

    54.1%
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    45.9%
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  1. Tobes

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    So **** all that proves that the 2001 survey results quoted in that piece were incorrect then.

    Thanks for clearing that up <ok>

    #fail
     
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  2. Stan

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    Germany, France and Italy put in more money than the UK. On a net basis I suspect the Germans are the biggest contributors. So they could argue that it's their money and given your simpleton's view on the subject, you'd have to agree with them.

    http://ukandeu.ac.uk/wp-content/upl...tion-in-the-EU-Budget-Professor-Iain-Begg.pdf
     
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  3. Tobes

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    What's going on is quite simple.

    The markets crashed - as virtually every economist predicted they would - after the news of Brexit.

    They've now stabilised as there's a period of inertia, as we won't be pressing the button on Article 50, until a new PM is in place, and if the legal experts who've piped up in the last day or so are correct - until after the Commons has voted on a new Bill in Parliament that won't happen until November.

    I posted a piece earlier that had analysts and traders quoted as saying exactly that.

    The markets will be highly volatile in the interim, reacting to comments made by politicians and company announcements about profit predictions for Q4, any capital expenditure being shelved or transferred elsewhere etc etc etc.

    The idea that the 2 day fall being somehow 'the end of it' is complete folly. When and if article 50 is invoked then the markets will flop through the floor - feel free to vault me on it <ok>
     
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  4. DMD

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    <laugh>

    Apart from people, such as the author of it saying it's ****, I guess not. It's hardly surprising that you think you know better than the people that wrote it.

    How sad reality doesn't match your deluded view of the world. <laugh>

    You really are rubbish at this.
     
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  5. NSIS

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    Spot on. And pretty much exactly what I've said.

    Anybody who thinks this is all over because it's gone quietish at the moment, is a fool.
     
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  6. PINKIE

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  7. DMD

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    I don't think anyone is, you're just repeating the bleeding obvious yet again, as if it's some mystical prediction.

    So, as the day's part done, care to make a prediction for the end of day FTSE250 and pound V Euro levels?
     
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  8. The RDBD

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    As EVERYONE said they would.


    "They've now stabilised as there's a period of inertia as we won't be pressing the button on Article 50, until a new PM is in place"

    48 hrs + after that news. Meaning the markets have the stop capability of a fully-laden cargo ship.


    "The markets will be highly volatile in the interim, reacting to comments made by politicians and company announcements about profit predictions for Q4, any capital expenditure being shelved or transferred elsewhere etc etc etc."

    The markets are reactive, not proactive. Yes.


    "The idea that the 2 day fall being somehow 'the end of it' is complete folly."

    Nobody said it was.
    What is being said it should still be going on, right now, And tomorrow. And next week.


    "When and if article 50 is invoked then the markets will flop through the floor"

    The markets will fall again.
     
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  9. luvgonzo

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    I think it was lack of knowledge again mate, nobody knew how we were funded by the EU and no ****er on the In campaign thought to point it out.
     
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  10. Stan

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    Yeh but who are the Germans gonna sell their cars to? Don't misunderestimate the Englanders.
     
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  11. The RDBD

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    Give him in 2 weeks time, so it lines up with Custards' "guess" prediction.
     
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  13. Tobes

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    So the author of the survey himself, said that the stats from the 2001 survey quoted in that piece were (& I quote) "****"

    I must have missed that bit of the transcript in the link you posted,

    Care to point me in the right direction?

    <laugh>

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  14. petersaxton

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    Over 17 million voted to leave. The numbers you mention are insignificant.
     
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    I dont have a problem with that. Although the funds moving around between the UK and the EU are more complicated than the Leave people made out. The grants from the EU needs to be paid by the UK from the money they save from not having to pay to the EU. There should be changes to what is funded as well.
     
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  16. DMD

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    Yep, he did in deed say that, but obviously using slightly different words. He distanced himself saying that the report the survey comes from is not suitable to the uses it is being applied to as the data and sampling methods were woefully inadequate as they were unverified and based on here say. He supported the work of the asylum seekers that were criticising the use it had been put to.

    I'll see if I've still got a copy of it when I'm neat the pc but Google is even a friend to you.

    Oh, and put your shoes on, you'll trip over them trying to avoid your bottom lip as you come to collect your arse as it's handed back to you.
     
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    Err, how many of those insightful economists were around in pre-2008 and abjectly failed to foresee the biggest worldwide recession and financial institution collapse for decades? Fills you full of confidence does it, that they the vast majority piled their money and reputations on a remain result.

    Am I bitter that traders and financial salespeople made small fortunes out of irresponsible and, sometimes illegal financial product sales, then yes, I am. I think the thieves should pay it back; don't you? That is what is supposed to happen with the proceeds of crime.

    I am simply pointing out that he is stating the obvious and claiming it to be his expert opinion when he needs it to support the other baseless guff he posts. He belittles himself with the quality and content of his posts.
     
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    Have you heard Cameron's response to questions? I'll stay around and keep an eye on your mutterings, as they do tend to get a bit fanciful. <ok>
     
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  19. petersaxton

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    We put in more than we get out - so it's our money.
    I fail to understand your logic that, because Germany puts in more than other countries, than ALL the money is Germany's. Total nonsense.
     
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    As you belittle yourself with your endless, pointless posts, trying to ram your ignorant opinions down the throats of others.

    FYI several saw 2008 coming. Read The Big Short !
     
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