Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

Don't confuse him with facts mate.

He prefers bullshit promises and spin.

 

"So because I cannot cogently explain things to make you accept my view, I have an issue.

Tell you what, mate, I am going to attempt to criticise superior intellect but still get it kicked up my 'inferior' arse".

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I know, but we have to make sure that as a nation we make sure that the promise is kept to a degree, money has to made available to improve the NHS as promised.

 

The Remainanias had Baroness Warsi as a plant in the 'leave' camp.
We had Corbyn sitting in the 'remain' camp. Guess who was more effective?


Cheers mate.

 

Ahh the old standard, you're too stupid to understand post.

The standard retort of the internet know nothing, noddy

Not arsed what your opinion is love, that post makes your opinion worthless

 

about that, but still rising so thats good for business, I guess it will be back to pre brexit levels within 2 weeks

 

She's got no say in anything at all whatsoever. She's just pointlessly jumping on the let's get back in bandwaggon.

She was also on TV mooting the possibility of Welsh independence. Wales, independent of England. Let that sink in.

I live in Wales, it hasn't got anything to offer, sorry. No way on this earth can it sustain itself as an independent country, it's complete and utter ****ing nonsense.

It's odd that 'Wales' voted to leave, the country gets huge EU subsidies and the farming industry is also heavily subsidised. It's not because of immigration before you think that this place is full of misguided, thick racists because it is not.

There has to a reason then.

Swansea city centre was about to get a massive multi million pound upgrade. Much needed too, the place is ****ing awful.

Mostly EU funded. Like most things in Swansea, it will probably now never happen.

 

Its our money not the EUs.

Now we can only hope the future Gov pays up and keeps subsidies as is (they said they would) so until then we will have to wait and see.

 

Brought to you by the man who first posted :

If you think that the market falls were solely about traders "trying to make money" after the event, then you've got your head up your arse.


"Not arsed what your opinion is love, that post makes your opinion worthless"

The classic riposte of the "Do not as I do, do as I say" .

<physican, heal thyself>

 

based on what?

 

His opinion ??
But the good thing about it is that we can judge it in 2 weeks time.

 

Accusing you of potentially having your head up your hoop, was not insulting your intelligence merely your perspective.....

 

Which is partly my point, Westminster won't back Swansea/Wales with the equal funding it would have got from EU.

It just won't.

Cameron has more or less already pulled the plug on a huge tidal lagoon round Swansea which would have pulled in hundreds of new jobs, add **** loads to the local economy and provided sustainable green power.

The power would cost the government too much to buy. It's backing nuclear instead. There are still negotiations but anyone down here knows fine well it will not happen. Let's build a new nuclear reactor at Hinkley instead. It should be as well as.

 

As I said my GUESS

Confidence is growing again as the world will not end, just yet

 

One of many that comment on reports fed from the same **** data that sucked you in. Copied below to save you clicking links.

http://www.thisisull.com/market/articles05/hamikurd/hamikurda.html


As I said, as a diversion from the failed prophecies of doom and gloom from the self proclaimed experts, this really is piss poor.


Hami Kurd is a Kurdish-to-English language magazine and is written by normal working class Hull Kurds who have no position within the asylum industry to protect or promote. Our experience of Hull is that things have improved enormously here since the year 2000. The native people of Hull have been largely welcoming and friendly once they realised why we were here.

Gary Craig sits in his office, unaware of the Kurds playing football with their British friends, going drinking on a night with their British friends, being involved in everyday community and family life with their British friends. Many of our people are now married into British families.
Gary Craig seems to know nothing of these people and their relationships within the community.
He uses old crime statistics, analyses them in his office at Hull University, and then tells us that Hull is full of racists. Should we use 1945 statistics relating to German attacks on British people or 1977 statistics to represent Irish attacks upon the British? This is not just negligent, it is dangerous. The BNP reading this document would see Hull as a great recruiting ground. Gary Craig has done none of us any favours.

The Council receives huge criticism for its role in race relations in Hull but our experience of the Council is quite different. Whilst Gary Craig was conducting his predictably negative research, we were invited to voice our thoughts freely at many meetings by Hull City Council.

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We have little complaint about the Council's direct efforts (Anna Whalen, Ria Toutountzi, Henry Avontuur, Sarah Gibson, and Linda Lo etc. have always been willing to listen to the Kurdish community and have always given us a great deal of respect) but, as Kurds who live in Hull, we have many complaints about some of the initiatives and organizations Gary Craig praises.

Ironically they have all received funding from Hull City Council, the organization that Gary Craig criticizes!
We think the problem is that there is no future funding potential in positive research findings and the Hull Daily Mail article (and the research document itself) implied that more research was required.

Ask certain people to take part in such a study and you will get the result you want. Ask those who stand to lose out if racism is not a big issue in Hull, and they will guide you to people who will tell you tales of racism as an everyday event.

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This is not an accurate picture and it is painted by academics who do not live with us and people who have set themselves up as community leaders.

We dispute the findings of this report and would advise Hull City Council not to waste any more public money on further misguided research when it could sensibly invest in research conducted by better informed, genuinely involved people.
We also carried out our own informal survey on Newland Avenue on 25th July, when we asked people from ethnic minorities who were passing by whether they had been asked their opinions on race relations in Hull by anyone over the last six months.

Only two out of one hundred and three said they had and they could not say if they had been asked by Hull University or someone else. Again, how deeply can we trust the findings of Gary Craig's report? He did not consult the normal Kurds, so can we be sure he consulted the normal Jewish, Eastern European or African peoples?

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www.hamikurd.com

 

Hinkley may not happen now

 

I think this is a part of the issue that you've spectacularly failed to understand as you've just believed every lie Nigel told you.

Firstly, all the money in the EU isn't UK money. You've stated on a number of occasions that it isn't EU money, it's UK money. That is of course utter nonsense.

By exiting the EU we save some money as we won't have to contribute. On the flip side, the concern is UK Plc will make less money by not being in the EU.

No one knows for certain what the net result will be. One thing that is certain is that Leave have already said that money saved by not paying into the EU won't actually be put into the NHS as they promised during their campaigning, probably because they've already worked out that UK Plc isn't actually going to be richer by exiting the EU.

 

Q Where does the EU get its money from?
A Us

So its our money

 

The perspective of a scientist/engineer by education and profession.
Which immediately tells me there is a contradiction (as I posted) in the claims of how the
"markets" operate, and what is currently going on.

 

You should put a few grand into the 250. 8% in 2 weeks would be a great return.