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Match Day Thread England vs Iceland 8pm 27 June

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  1. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Sigurdson? Swansea's best player since Joe Allen left. I'd take him in a shot.
     
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  2. VVD

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    I noticed that, constantly talking and shouting in the tunnel before the game, belting the anthem out, and then other than Sterling he was the worst player of the tournament.
     
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    An Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman walk into a bar. There's normally a Welshman with them, but he's still in France.
     
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    Don't like to point the finger at one player, but let's do it anyway :) Hart was way off form...there were 2 goals in this tournament that Forster would have saved. Not knocking Hart as a PL keeper, but he wasn't at his best here.
     
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  5. Pelletron

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    I bet he's absolutely gagging to leave a bunch of winners embarking on a CL adventure and come and help England limp their way through yet another tournament!

    Could apply that to any manager really, but I'd go for Howe. I know he's not got national experience, but after a run of has-been, last-job, past-glory pensioners, and faced now with Gareth Southgate as favourite, I think it would be a good shot at picking up some experience to move into a future higher job bracket. He has the experience of creating a team that plays for each other, and that's what England need to become. Italy have a relevant, modern manager at the peak of his powers, on a path between two huge domestic giants of the game. I think we need to try to do the same.

    After the shame of Hodgson being the highest paid manager at the Euros, beaten by an Icelandic dentist, they wouldn't have to pay Howe as much, and he would have no pressure. They should persuade him to take a two year contract, and then he can move back into the domestic game.
     
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  6. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Which employed manager in their right mind would take the England job? People are still ridiculing Steve McClaren all these years later. A poisoned chalice, not an honour.
     
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    Hang on he pulled off a world class save last night from that overhead kick, Hoddle said his reactions to save that were brilliant.
     
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    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Glenn Hoddle is apparently suggested as the next England manager.
     
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    That was the point where I lost it. Hart lacked the reflexes to get out of the way.

    To 'sell' it as a fine save, pathetic.
     
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  10. Pelletron

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    Truly can't think of one. Maybe Brenda. Could get his hands on some Saints players.
     
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  11. Pelletron

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    Hate to do this Ides, but I couldn't resist some bumping today. If Roy's had a nightmare, at least you're standing shoulder to shoulder with him in that nightmare! You cannot put a Spurs team on the international stage and expect them not to be Spurs-y. <laugh>

     
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    A rumour spread by Joe 'flaps' Hart.
     
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  13. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    There is a goalkeeper named Joe
    His reactions are rather quite slow
    Sometimes he doth save
    For he's really quite brave
    Please just don't shoot the ball hard or low.
     
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  14. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    One thing I can't get my head round is why Barkley didn't play a single minute. We were crying out for a bit of guile in whole tournament yet we just went pace, pace, pace.
     
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    Needs to play for a big club.
     
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    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    I wouldn't jump for Hoddle. He says the same England manager woolly BS that every England manager has spoken. Granted he has experience of the European game, but do European managers have experience of the English game.? I think it's an overblown attribute. Yes, it should take its position in the list of priorities, but it need not even be a must-have requirement.

    It's been said the FA have tried all the avenues of management, in recent years. The heavily experienced in world football [Hodgson], the young up and coming [McClaren], the foreign bloke [Capello], but they've never tried the hugely successful. In recent years there haven't been any anyway, and historically, the one that was, wanted to take over, because all he saw was stuffy suits. And it was a great shame he didn't. To this day the FA don't pro-act. They react to a glaring need and they do it so slowly that the rest of the football world moves on. So whereas Hoddle appears tactically astute, just bear in mind how well his teams have done at top level, and his ability to make a difference. It's not so fantastic when you look at it that way.

    If the FA want to do something innovative, then study what they do in successful international countries. Italy and Germany are the shining lights of European football. They have always had decent to great international teams. Spain and France have been successful in the last 20 years, but the success isn't written into their football DNA yet. At tournament level, Germany and Italy come good [don't cite the example of Italy failing once in recent years, they've put that right], whatever their previous level of form. They've always done it. It's a part of their make-up. The pressure makes them rise to the challenge, not bottle it. At worst the pressure is dismissed, at best it's a spur. Study that.
     
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  17. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Well, if Hodgson made logical selections I could give you a logical reason. Barkley showed no good form last season at all, so perhaps that's why he wasn't played. Then again there were other players in worse form who were picked. Besides, I've a feeling Barkley has had all the guile coached out of him.
     
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    I know. I was venting. I am a serial venter.
     
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  19. ImpSaint

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    Yes. How can anyone not be surprised. As much as people like to put England and down and talk of serial disappointment we were playing Iceland. Our first team and squad was far far superior to Iceland. This was akin to Lincoln City beating Southampton with Pelle, Long and Davis shooting on sight so they could have the main picture in the newspapers. Wouls Southampton fans be "not surprised" if that happened? Of course they would and they would be very very angry.

    Thank god we do not have players that think they have to be the hero. thank god we have players that think team first, personal glory second and not the other way round.
     
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  20. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    No good form last season at all? He had a poor 2nd half/finish yes, but was in great form before Christmas if I remember rightly.

    Roy seemed a big fan too so just find it strange.
     
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