Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

I don't mind people voting in a different direction to me. People who voted Leave to keep the Muslims out probably shouldn't be allowed to vote. Maybe you disagree.

 

Just had a quick squint round a few news channels, and they seem to be rolling out a few business leaders and economists that think the EU financial model is less equipped for the future than the UK's is liable to be once it's been through the wash.

Fair few markets climbing at the minute.

 

Why are companies struggling? The referendum result was on Friday and we will be in the EU for another two years.

 

I think everybody who is of sound mind and over 18 and not in prison should be allowed to vote. You obviously think it should depend on whether you agree with their reasons for voting. I would suggest that is undemocratic.

 

Some try to paint a simplistic picture, ignoring the fact that Brexit was one factor in a much bigger issue. If anything, it's a trigger for 'when' rather than a reason for 'why'.

 

You don't think a tanked GBP will impact some companies' profits? There seems to be some kind of denial that the GBP has fallen.

 

It is the fallout of an unexpected result, poor forecasting and the immediate affect of people who hoped to make short term gains by gambling on the outcome; perhaps even manipulating it. Tobes mate gives a reasonable insight, which is why I thanked him, as it supported what I had said and you said was bollocks:

Once the reality and scale of their mistake had kicked in (bet lost ), they then had to look at dealing with the huge lack of confidence their own professional inadequacies had helped create; they totally failed to have a Plan B, such was their arrogance. You have been constantly telling us we should ignore our own knowledge and instinct to believe you, simply because you are (or were) one of their number for 20+yrs - a period of great shame (for those that have shame and care) in your chosen sector.

You have constantly called to anyone daft enough to back you that we throw your wisdom back in your face because we are idiots who do not recognise the bounty of your considered words. But wait, now you say: "I also know many people think that those of us who work, or worked in the City know exactly what's going to happen, we don't - I've freely admitted it." So we are right then, your's are educated guesses, just the same as everyone else's, except you claim your experience of ****ing up our economy as your Joker for winning the guessing game.

Why is someone an idiot because they ask what the solution is, when you know full well there will be one; it will simply take time to fully develop it, but much can be done short-term. My own brief answer to this question, at this time, is that as long as the vote is acted upon, then what is being done is correct - a steering body of experts in the relevant fields to offer advice and draw up detailed agendas for sensible dialogue between affect parties. It needs to be seen that Europe can manage change which it made constitutionally possible and probable, consulting and constructing a path forward that gives the world confidence in its ability to survive - in other words calm the markets, calm the politicians and start looking to the future. You never know, they all might just come to realise that there is a mutually acceptable better way forward. But only an idiot might consider that to be a possibility, according to your 20+yrs experience, anyway.

But, of course, you are right; all you can do is give an educated guess where things will go next, although it does not stop you claiming to be intellectually superior in that guess - why I am not so sure, as I agree with you that the variables make accurate projections difficult.

I am sure we are all eternally grateful for your wise and insightful guidance, pointing out that "this volatile situation will continue until future direction becomes much clearer." No **** Sherlock!

 

No, we are in agreement. I don't think the first guy in the below clip is of sound mind. Not only should he not be allowed to vote but I don't think he should be allowed to speak in public. Do you not appreciate how ****ing ignorant his comment is? Sadly there are millions like him in this country. The third guy, who complains about what has been spent on art, I could have a pint and a chat with him.

 

My educated guesses are about markets are a lot more accurate than yours!..why don't you wait and see instead of trying to tell me that you know better? You don't!!

You're a pointless moron, just here trying to score points.

**** off and bore somebody else, eh!

 

They are struggling with future investment plans because nobody has shown them an exit strategy. The out campaign did not give any idea about the terms that they would seek or accept for access to the single market, mainly because they didn't have a clue other than saying everything will work out fine.

 

Bitter fritz, thank got we are getting out.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archive...hilosophy-that-the-crowd-can-decide-its-fate/

 

some companies will find that imports will cost more but other companies will find that exports are more competitive

 

Until a new PM is in place you cant have an exit strategy, so a new PM needs to be in place very week, I expect next week it will be sorted or the final candidates will offer what they have in store Boris v May is my bet, I think May would be the better bet.

 

Voters on both sides will have had varying degrees of understanding of the full implications of their votes; I have not come across any bemused voters in this 68% exit area. Instead of being all dictatorial (or selective - would you send them on the right-hand path to the shower block?) which really does define the **** that you are, maybe you and your Big Brother clones should have argued your case better and not have assumed an easy victory. Your arrogance and selectivity makes you far more dangerous.

 

So because you don't agree with him he shouldn't be allowed to vote?

 

True. But as the UK imports more than it exports, the net effect is negative. Not to mention inflationary!

 

That's not what you asked. You asked why some companies will suffer.

 

How could they? They didnt know who would be making the decisions and they certainly didnt know how negotiations would evolve. It's like the Remain campaign didn't know what staying in the EU would involve. That would be dependent on other countries who could overrule us.
You seem to think that nobody should make a decision in life because of lack of certainty.

 

Do you think he's of sound mind given his reasons for voting to leave the EU?