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Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by PINKIE, Jun 9, 2016.

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?

  1. In

    54.1%
  2. Out

    45.9%
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  1. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    You lot wanted him not so long back <laugh>

    This summer the money for players is going to be crazy. A £30mil player is a £15mil player 2 years ago.

    We'll get a little less for Benteke, so I see it as a swap plus a few mil.

    Happy days.
     
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  2. Tobes

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    What have you 'won' exactly?

    Has it not dawned on you yet, that in order to gain a free trade agreement with the EU, we're going to have to accept the free movement of people as part of that - as was pointed out to you before the vote with the examples of Norway and Switzerland?

    So the issue that lead to your vote isn't going to change - even Boris has virtually admitted as much already.

    You've been mugged off by a Far right extremist and a career monkey Tory (who didn't even expect or want to ****ing 'win' the referendum)

    You couldn't make it up <laugh>
     
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  3. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    He's won a teddy bear.
     
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  4. HRH Custard VC

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    Upsetting you is worth it alone, now back to throwing your toys out your pram
     
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    You seriously believe that international investors are deliberately tanking the currency and equity Mkts out of spite??

    You're dreaming, mate....

    I've explained what's happening and why it's happening. If you choose to believe that this is some conspiracy amongst int'l investors to get revenge for Brexit!! ........
     
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  6. The RDBD

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    They really aren't that smart, honestly.
     
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  7. Tobes

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    The EU isn't ****ed at all.

    The Eurozone is what the prime issue is. The basic premise of tying together disparate economies with one single currency was always going to fail in the long term.

    I can see the Eurozone either contracting or being canned at some point down the track.

    However, the EU is primarily a trading block, to remove ourselves from it unilaterally is economic suicide. We should have remained within the EU as a non Eurozone country and continued to press for reform from within. We're now on the outside looking in, there's complete delusion about how eager the EU are going to be to bend over backwards for the UK to get some form on 'special' treatment in terms of our trade agreements. It's simply not going to happen.

    We face the prospect of either paying huge tariffs (way beyond our net contribution to the EU) or having free movement of people which completely downs the reason that many voted out.

    I find it utterly incredible that these straightforward realities are only now being absorbed by the populous, and the blame for that lies with an awful Remain campaign combined with a complete lack of thought and research by many of the Out voters.
     
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  8. Tobes

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    Sort of sums up your intelligence that post pal.

    You've been mugged off, and it's obviously started to dawn on you.
     
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  9. Fez

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    Cheers. I believe the biggest culprit in this is the media. The BBC (and others) seem to want to exercise common sense only when it suits them and they just love to bounce the immigration argument until it clouds much more reasoned thinking, like control and authority ownership. Everything I have seen about the NHS funding does not say it would give them exclusive right to this level of funding, but it could have been phrased better to avoid deliberate misinterpretation. I don't believe too many folk voted for all of the wrong reasons, not unless we are talking about the Remainers; I think both camps voted with more than one reason and I believe the media is allowing it to be polarised to justify their ongoing coverage.

    The whole EU push for immediate exit triggers (although I accept a softening by AM) is just daft. We have constitutional rights to take a considered approach, which in turn also allows us to maximise the funding we are eligible for in the given allocation window; we would be mad to instigate our intentions now. Labour have internal mayhem and the Tories have internal opportunity - perhaps they both have opportunity, but I think Labours issues are deep and problematic. The Civil Service have a huge role to play in showing the country their contingency planning; we should hope they have done some! We shouldn't get too het up because the financial ****ers picked the wrong horse in a two horse race; they'll get over it, they always do, once shown the error of their collective ways.

    Far too much talk about the vote being the outcome of ****wittery, it is the aftermath of accepting the outcome (aye, defeat) that is suffering ****wittery. It has been really disappointing to hear some of our so-called betrayed youth (notice I don't take a broad-brush to them all) try and explain why they feel that way. I think it was the ones with L & R on their wellies.
     
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  10. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    yeah, you won, how long will it take to realise how pyrric that victory is? pound tanking against the dollar, which isn't exactly strong itself after it's default last year. you'll still get immigration becauase most of those immigrants you complain about don;t come from the EU, you'll still get lots of infuriating and stupid rules because most of them come from insurance companies not the EU. And, of course, tax will go up and the value of the pound will go down.
     
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    Picked the wrong horse, but had not bet significant (if any) money on that horse.
     
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    There's a lot there that has nothing to do with anything I posted. Not sure why you're getting upset. There are people that I know who WILL be losing their jobs. Their companies said that for some of the workers that is the reality. They've done nothing wrong, they're blameless. When told "we'll have it tough for a while, but in the long run we'll be ok" it solves nothing for them as they are looking at the here and now.

    You've talked about others who don't have jobs already. Those people deserve to be addressed also. But the ones who are about to lose their jobs, people I know (and others across England, Wales, Scotland, NI) will lose their jobs as a direct consequence of a vote we all made 4 days ago. Their lives are about to change for the worse now. It's no comfort to them what the situation will be like in 2 years when their whole world is about to be turned upside down. The trouble is the Brexeters have said things, many have - and it hasnt been approproate or meaningful for these people. I believe these people should be treated as one of our main priorities and someone should be saying something publicly right now to reassure them about their immediate future. I'm amazed you are upset by this. Instead of having a go, why not see them for what they are.
     
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  13. Skylarker

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    But won't there be loads of jobs going when the deportation starts?
     
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    oh, and the 0 hour contract will be here to stay.
     
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    Firstly, I have no idea what sector these people you know work in - tell me who their companies are and what role they played within them?

    Secondly, there are no long term reasons to remove jobs from this country due to 'Passporting', January brings in a piece of legislation that enables it regardless of EU membership. Anyone who does lose their job will have full recourse to the wonderful support and opportunities open to those already seeking employment after 40+yrs of European membership - I've lost track of the previous occasions when this enforced job migration have been a threat to our people and their economy. Let's see what actually happens instead of build a dark and foreboding outlook from what-ifs.

    I haven't 'had a go' I have questioned your loaded opinion and challenged your facts; as I see them for what they are, inaccurate and loaded by one aspect when many are at play.
     
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    Some workers prefer to be on a zero hour contract as it gives them more choice. It's similar to being self employed.
     
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    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    really? people like the 'choice' of not knowing if they'll be earning any money that week do they? Much like the mill workers of the 19th century did?
     
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