Interesting that you have not answered anything in my post - just the same old content free comments as ever !
Unfortunately the ignore option does not differentiate between threads. It is difficult to retain the idea of Hornet solidarity in the football discussions given the often bitter and personal attacks made on the political threads. Wearing the same coloured scarf does not make me warm to a person who simply cannot or won't consider another's viewpoint. Not directly Brexit but related I suggest.
As one Tory MP put it this morning; "Thank goodness the crisis in the Labour Party has come to the fore as it is masking the crisis in the Tory Party".
No doubt feeling safe as the media will focus where they are told to focus. Foolishly though - he seems blithely unaware that the public get their information elsewhere these days.
I remember asking for something similar when the political arguments starting taking over and with the advent of one or two posters who seemed to delight in winding me and others up. I was roundly rebuked by Leo then... and of course sadly he has now left This use to be a great forum in the 606 days..... new members needed really too
A very interesting perspective... worth a read at least:: If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost. Perhaps many Brexiters do not rea...lise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron. With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership. How? Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor. And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew. The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction. The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50? Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders? Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated. If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act. The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice. When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take. All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign. I have always wondered why Boris, who is in the pockets of the banks, went down this road. Interesting analysis this....
It has become clear that the petition was started by an EDL sympathiser in case the Leave campaign lost. But a petition of this order is unheard of in British politics and shows the divide in the country.. Whatever happens we need a Govt that works towards unity in the weeks ahead.
It is not done Mex......... there are months, years of disarray ahead in the UK... for that reason and the fact that I care it is not something I personally want to 'get over'
OK Yorkie, I might not know much from here - have your ball back. The game goes on, next goal wins...
Another story on how the media have misled people... in this instance the Sun: You might remember The Sun's headline mere days before the EU referendum. please log in to view this image Rupert Murdoch's paper wholeheartedly endorsed Brexit, and the paper, which has only backed winning campaigns for decades, urged its readers to vote Leave. However post-referendum is a completely different story. A sombre article about the impact on personal finances appeared on the Sun's website after the results came out, and there may have been some back-peddling involved: please log in to view this image The article claimed the following consequences of the UK leaving the EU: 1. Inflation is likely to rise 2. The cost of an average family holiday will rise 3. Accommodation abroad will cost more 4. Beer prices will go up 5. EU caps on international calls will no longer apply, so it’ll cost much more to make calls in Europe 6. Unemployment will rise and wages will fall by up to four per cent 7. Mortgages prices will rise 8. Rates of taxation will increase 9. Benefit payments may be slashed Sun readers, seemingly in a dream up to this point, had the equivalent of a jug of ice-cold water thrown at them. And they're not just awake. They’re angry: please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image But it was this comment that rang true... please log in to view this image
I'm not surprised at all by this yorkie - it sounds to me as though all Murdoch was doing was manipulating the currency markets coupled with a bit of heavy dabbling. Probably made a fortune at Britain's expense.
