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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, May 27, 2016.

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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

Poll closed Jun 26, 2016.
  1. IN

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  2. OUT

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  3. DON'T KNOW

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    So long as people trust UK politicians to deliver what they promise. Oh, wait...
     
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  2. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    They can always write it into a piece of legislation. I wouldn't trust any politicians tbh.
     
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  3. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    Who can? How?

    If the number of EU students at Scottish universities goes down do they get to claim compensation for lost income as well as having their funding guaranteed by some magical unchangeable legislation?

    In which case we have the situation that Brexit means we just threw away billions of pounds for nothing changing except some racists get to feel like they won something (note to Gerrez just an exaggeration)
     
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  4. philo beddoe

    philo beddoe Active Member

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    As has been said before, there are a number of EU countries that would not like to encourage separatist movements within their own countries and so I can't see that happening. An example is Spain.
     
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    astro Well-Known Member

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    David Cameron: Luis Suarez criticises 'appalling' campaign

    Barcelona striker Luis Suarez says Prime Minister David Cameron set "the most appalling example" by losing the referendum of the United Kingdom's membership of the European Union.

    "As a dad and as a human being, do I think we should have tough penalties when politicians behave like this? Yes," Mr Suarez told BBC Radio 5 live.

    Mr Suarez had said that "it would be very understandable if the voters took into account that high-profile politicians are often role models".

    "I made my own views clear, just as a dad watching the referendum," Mr Suarez added.

    "I have a three-year-old son who loves Europe, loves watching debates and when politicians behave like this, it sets the most appalling example to young people in our country."
     
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  6. philo beddoe

    philo beddoe Active Member

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    Northern Ireland will not be joining the Republic anytime soon as the Republic are directly affected by Brexit and so unification would and should be the last thing that will be on their minds.

    There's an incredible amount of hysteria in this thread. As someone who voted remain I am disappointed in our choice but that's democracy and so I accept the result and feel we now need to focus on making this work rather than fill in stupid petitions and call all those who voted leave racist bigots (I actually believe that this helped solidify the leave vote).
     
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    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    Our government could write a piece of legislation guaranteeing certain levels of funding. It wouldn't be magical unchangable legislation though.
     
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  8. Tobes

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    If the Scottish Parliament demands a vote before the UK exit from the EU is confirmed, then there's next to **** all that Westminster can do to deny it, both politically and from the social aspect. If there's a huge groundswell of opinion that wants it, it'll happen at their time of choosing not Westminsters.
     
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  10. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    If there is overwhelming public opinion in favour of it, it will be a different story. If it's the SNP pushing for it the government can drag its heels for ages. Either way I'd expect people to want to know how the brexit is going to shape up before deciding to go for independance.
     
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  11. philo beddoe

    philo beddoe Active Member

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    They will of course firstly have to gauge whether there is popular support for another referendum and then secondly make a case to the Scottish people to vote on. They cannot just dust off the phish that was in the white paper seeing as the economic environment has clearly changed.
     
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  12. Tobes

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    Johnson was pro EU before Cameron decided to give his party an open vote and the right to campaign against remain.

    He then saw his opportunity to challenge his old adversary and position himself as the new PM elect. It's a rivalry that goes back to their public school days, and the fat chump set aside his actual beliefs to play politics with the sole intention of personal gain.

    Unfortunately for him, he gave the far right clown Farage and his cronies an air of respectability and he's therefore responsible for the biggest political **** up in modern British history. The reality of what he'd overseen dawned on the ****ing floppy haired prick yesterday morning.
     
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  13. afcftw

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    That link doesn't work. Also I'm pretty sure I read that the French government have already said the agreement we have in place re Calais will remain.
     
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    They'll judge the best time to push for it. If I was them, I'd give it 12-18 months plus, when the real economic reality of this monumental **** up is biting hard. They can then remind the Scots who was responsible for it, and that they can escape the malaise.
     
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    French politicians are demanding that Britain takes back its border after voting to leave the European Union.
    The Mayor of Calais Natacha Bouchart said an immigration deal which allows Britain to check passports in France, preventing migrants from crossing the Channel, should be renegotiated.
    Ms Bouchart told French broadcaster BFM TV: "The British must take on the consequences of their choice.
    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/calais-tells-britain-back-border-195843138.html?nhp=1
     
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    The irony is that the biggest leave voters have been the residents of Folkestone Dover and rest of Kent. They benefit from having the passport control on French soil. Will there be multiple detention centres in Dover?​
     
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  17. philo beddoe

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    Given that it's the Mayor and not a French MP I don't think we have to worry unduly just yet. This was a bilateral agreement that was not linked to EU membership and so the Mayor is just chancing her arm, and of course it sells news.
     
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    I think we shouldn't be relieved either. She is obviously reflecting current thinking.Why would the French be helpful to the British anymore?
     
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    Because they are still a neighbouring country and we will still co-operate and work together on plenty of things regardless of leaving the EU. We aren't all of a sudden becoming enemies with the countries in the EU...
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    That's Spain basically...

    The thing is now is a whole new ball game.

    The Scots were threatened by a tory/libs coalition that they leave and they are not automatically in eu and at that time the eu back that stance as it was convienent.

    Roll 12 months and suddenly tories are in on their own and they say referendum and the circumstances of 2914 might as well be 1914 for all their relevance.

    Scotland faces being the arseholes of the uk along with wales and NI in a london centric uk.

    The eu paying them development aid and being English speaking to attract those foreign direct investment jobs is very attractive

    In the end.... why would it be less attractive outside uk but in eu.

    Guess what... Scotland will claim it pays in more to Westminster than it gets back... and if that arguement is good enough for Brexiters it's good enough for Scots!!!

    However I do think they just overspend but a significant part of that is appeasement and they can easily balance book outside uk.. the problem is then the uk loses all that oil etc
     
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