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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. finglasqpr

    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    Meanwhile, over this side of the Irish sea, our Government is recalling parliament from their 3 months holidays (bastards) on Monday to discuss the effects this will have on us. The Irish passport office in London is receiving thousands of applications from people in Britain for Irish passports. If you have a parent born on the island of Ireland North or South, you are automatically entitled to an Irish passport and in some cases, even a Grandparent (just ask Tony O' Cascarino). Another EU passport will entitle you to live and work in any EU country as well as entitle you to health benefits should you get sick somewhere on your holidays. You can have dual citizenship so your rights within the UK wouldn't change of you opted for a second passport. Some people might be interested in this if they are entitled.
     
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    Sutfol Well-Known Member

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    I'm not an old or poor voter, I'm not racist and I don't like Farage. I did vote to leave based on one point alone. I want to live in a democratic society that is not 'overseen' by unelected Eurocrats.
    People like Juncker remind me of Sepp Blatter. Arrogant and out of touch with too much power. The EU will not survive without serious reform but people like him do not want that.
     
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  3. qprbeth

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    Yes I was Col....it was a bit more patchy than rural England...but yes.Wales gets a lot of EU money...and they will actually miss it... South Wales steel redundancies and fishing will have had an effect.
    Also the falling away of the traditional Labour vote too will have affected the result.....

    The leave vote in Wales has actually taken away the power for independence that Scotland and Ireland are exerting as well... I must say...if you think leaving the EU will be bad for England (and you know I think it will) it will be worse for Wales.
    Lack of EU subsidaries, the NHS there is worse than in England already....but the housing will be very cheap
     
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  4. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    That's a bit rich, Col. I fully believe that you voted on principle and you have understandably complained about Leave voters being painted with the racist brush (not that that has happened on here), yet now here you are suggesting that the majority of Remainers are just selfish whingers. I voted on principle too I'll have you know, and I resent the implication that I didn't.
     
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  5. ELLERS

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    What some remain voters should have worked out is that the EU in geared up for big companies and are not interested in the little man. The democratic men in Brussels also look after Germany first so i couldn't understand that argument. My mate works for a German company who imports high-tech drugs to the UK. I can understand his fears but would they not want to sell to us?
     
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  6. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member
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    Well it's all here Stanos ( the same poll that those who blamed the 'old' people figures were taken from ) ...

    http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/How-the-UK-voted-Full-tables-1.pdf

    I stand by my original statement and demand a venn diagram before I change it. :grin:
     
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    Come on lads, you can't have it both ways, complaining, justifiably, about all Brexiters being branded Little Englanders etc and then calling all Remainers selfish. I'm sure plenty on the remain side voted on the principle of international collaboration and cooperation in an increasingly complex world. I know I did, even though the EU is not a shining example of how to do it well. What the Brexit leaders need to do now is at least try to gain the trust of the 48% that they will get this thing done with the minimum pain and maximum efficiency so we can see the benefits promised for ourselves and our kids in the foreseable future. As it stands the divisions within the country appear deeper than the divisions between the UK and the EU, and that can't be good.
     
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    QPR999 Well-Known Member
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    My application is going in this week. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Just to back up my earlier point regarding people saying they would vote differently
    Apparently Justine Greening MP as just tweeted say she was in and now she has come out. <sorry>
     
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    Very good comment and not one that I would disagree with, so fair enough, but I suppose there is just a lot of bad feeling about at the moment on both sides and we are both prepared to fight our corner strongly if over exuberant at times..
     
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    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    Hurry up, the last I heard, they had run out of application forms. They reckon there could be as many as 6m people in Britain entitled to an Irish passport.
     
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    6 million? Blimey, I knew I should've done this years ago.
     
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  13. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Visa free holidays in nz
    Government here already looking at trade deals
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Just download the forms 9s
     
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    I'm not going through that mate! BBC has England Brexit vote at 53.8%, and I'd trust them more than Tory Lord Ashcroft.
    You traitor O'Ninesy!
     
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    Tens of thousands of people have joined the Pride parade through central London.
     
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    This is what we need to do start trading more with Australia/New Zealand/Canada/India/South Africa. My Mum said in the old days New Zealand lamb was cheap and tasty but when we joined Europe we stitched them up.
     
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    Do you have to be Irish or have Irish family to get one of these passports?
     
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    You need to have a parent born on the island of Ireland North or South or in some cases a Grandparent.
     
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    At the interview, they'll test you on the rules of hurling
     
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