I agree. The final victory margin was so narrow, they should have made the winning post 5% to reflect the magnitude of the decision, that way if Leave reached 5% you can't argue with a quite solid lead and it more truly reflects the will of the people. Hopefully this is taken into account in the coming days and weeks
And the bitter irony is, if it all goes pete tong, it will be that very demographic that will suffer the most and feel the biggest brunt of it. They always are.
As far as I can see one major change that will effect us most quickly will be to do with freedom of movement of UK citizens. Soon we will need a visa to work in Europe, possibly visit and holiday. Same for EU citizens coming into the UK. This is what it's all been about, putting in place a control measure and barrier to at least stymie the free movement of people in and out of the country. Once they issue new passports without 'European Union' written at the top. You can kiss goodbye to your retirement plans in the Spanish mountains and your Parisian Chanel wearing girlfriend who you hoped to maybe marry. We like it British and we like it white and we like it speaking english with an english accent and we like it eating a ****ing Greggs and none of that foreign muck now people. Welcome to the curious hermit island state of North England nestled in the waters of the Atlantic just off mainland Europe with its leader with a strange hair style and its subservient population who all ride strange little bikes everywhere and are awoken at 6am everyday automatically by the TV as it barks at them Brexit! Fecksit! Brexit! Fecksit!
Of course. You think Johnson and Gove are going to create legislation that ends up with them and their cronies worse off ?! Christ knows what we'll get if that happens. Maybe they can revive the corpse of Enoch Powell
Yes Minister was always weirdly accurate as well as brilliant Still love the Yes Prime Minister episode regarding our nuclear deterrent and Hacker discussing the need for it with Sir Humphrey Hacker "Well as i suppose we have to have it because of the russians" Humpy " Russians - what have they got to do with it ?" Hacker " well surely thats who we are deterring Humpy "oh no they have 314 warheads to each one of ours" Hacker "Well what have we got it for" Humpy " The French of course"
Won't happen. Simply put I'm laughing at how leavers demand europe give then everything and vote to allow leave promptly but then deny Scotland due process.
Osborne is toast he has burnt his bridges with the Eurosceptic wing of the Tory PLP. Davies is far unlikely as by Tory standards he seems quite a reasonable fella so no way the Party as a whole will want him. Boris Hmm - get the impression a large chunk of the PLP regard him as an amusing aside but they don't think he is a serious option only worry is pressure from the constituency parties who are normally just to the right of Genghis Khan
That's ****ing brilliant. I loved that show... it was reruns when I saw it but **** it was Ace. Don't gets dialogue like that now.
I have to admit I find it strangely disturbing that I am agreeing with pretty much everything you've posted on the subject, like some shared common purpose. It almost makes me feel dirty I now know what it must feel like for some reasonable person to be siding with Michael Gove and Nigel Farage!!
The remain aren't doing the crowing though are they? They/we are just moaning. The repercussions of this decision, good and bad, will manifest themselves over the next few years. It's stupid to say "Look, everything's ok" after a day.
I have the books (basically the scripts with a few asides added ) and even now i still get them out everynow and then and in between laughing realise fundamentally how much hasn't changed in the near 40 year gap. I remember watching the Christmas special in 85 ,on a borrowed 6 inch B&W tele we had borrowed off a mate ,having just moved in with my GF (now wife) . just read that back and it reads a bit like th4 Yorkshiremen sketch which wasn't the intention
I bet it will, the other parties aren't in favour of a referendum as they don't support pulling out of the U.K. Last time around they only voted the bill through as the SNP had a majority and therefor the vote in the Scottish Parliament was a formality. Without that majority the other parties will oppose a referendum. The vote was also only put to the Scottish Parliament after an agreement with the U.K. Government that allowed the referendum to become a legal process, as it stands there is no way that agreement will be made before Cameron steps down and an incoming PM will be prioritising EU negotiations. The U.K. Government would have no interest in making it a quick process, so even if it appeared the SNP had convinced other parties to back there proposal it wouldn't simply be a straightforward process. There are several hurdles in the way of getting a referendum for Scottish independance and even then I expect the referendum would go the same way as last time. I wouldn't deny Scotland anything, Scotland had its chance to leave and chose to stay. As a Brit of Scottish and English heritage I was very pleased with the decision last time around as I identify strongly with both nations and felt it was the right decision for Scotland. As things currently stand the union is even more important to Scotland than it was then.
The only good thing from this is that if he reneges on all the promises that carried him to victory those who supported him might see how they were conned and it may prevent him from furthering his career. Hopefully.
You've missed the legal framework. Clear and substantial change in circumstance. I think they'll put the required legislation in for another quick smart. The greens on their own plus SNP is enough to pass it.
Another point. At least scotland went remain. Wales voted leave. Pretty soon when the more equitable regional development funds ends and it's uk only and Wales and Scotland become the poor relations.. they'll regret it. Scotland can leave and beg to join eu.
