Spot on H, exactly my thoughts. I woke up this morning, sun is still shining and my beautiful family are all well (although I pulled a muscle in my back at the gym yesterday). Time to move on and look to the future - although I am sure that certain posters will carry on with the "told you so's".
There is a big difference between the mayor of a regional town demanding a treaty negotiated by governments be ripped up and those governments ripping them up. Threats seldom work with national governments and there a simple ways that could address the problem - if not threats begat threats.
The rise in the extreme right-wing is due to policies of the EU especially the selfish and foolish 'all welcome' statement from Merkel. The lack of effective external borders and the ill thought out Schengen agreement has created chaos. The lunatics took over the EU years ago, except they are the ones stuffing their pockets with cash until the gravy train crashes.
Hopefully the EU can save some cash by stopping paying the lifelong pensions paid to the likes of the Kinnocks and Mendelson - we were told that they would stop if we left, let's hope so.
As far as I'm concerned, the ugly side of humanity came out in 2014, during the lead up to the last referendum. And , yes - you're right about politicians. The Tory party in particular are responsible for the current toxic atmosphere of hate, blame and divisiveness in the nation. Not just through their approach to the referendum, but through their policies since coming to power in 2010, policies which focussed upon demonising the vulnerable in society and which have slowly built up the poison in people's minds. This referendum has simply seen that poison come to the surface and seep out into the open. Strange to say, but I'm quite happy over the referendum result - and I voted Remain. The reason I'm happy is, quite obviously, that it now means that Scotland will in all probability escape the clutches of a parliament that has done little but demonise and asset-strip it for the last 309 years.
Scotland will not leave. They cannot afford to lose the subsidies from London, they have no currency, the EU will not allow them to join. It is all hot air.
good for you matey.... You and yours voted for it yet the whole country has to bear the price. I spent yesterday with family and my son-in-law is sales manager for a brand in one of the top 100 UK companies. His group lost £200 million on Thursday 100% fact..... all their trade with the USA is threatened... and they will have to 'find' the money and regroup etc. Of course most of those who voted leave will just carry on the same, down the gym, the club, at the pub etc...... as we all know the vast majority of business leaders etc voted Remain and now they have to work even harder..... <yawn> While they are about how about stopping all pensions to retired MPs.... that money could be spent on the NHS... oh yes.... dreamland....
It is not a case of being bitter H. If the Brexiters had lost they would not have given up but would have continued agitating - and so am I from the other side. I do not accept the result and never will - because I can never accept a mentality which creates barriers between people. The Brexit campaign was fueled by the scapegoating of immigrants as somehow the cause of Britain's problems - and, most particularly the million or so East Europeans in Britain (one in every 60 !) - I have said elsewhere that I will never accept a World in which someone's worth is judged by their nationality, race, religion or their supposed value to the economy. I will never accept a possible PM. of Britain who once said (whilst a journalist) 'never let the facts get in the way of a good story'. I cannot take a democracy seriously in which newspapers tell their readers so directly how they should be voting, in which grand TV. debates reduce the whole thing to pure personality politics and in which opinion polls are allowed right up to the last minute (at one time this was not allowed). I also cannot take a democracy seriously which disenfranchised millions of British citizens living abroad - although they are very much affected by the result.
With my background in HE I have to tell you the atmosphere in the sector is very gloomy. They are likely to lose Erasmus and all the EU deals. Overseas students are already going more and more to study in Europe and in English. Perhaps worst of all is the research sector with many top rank research centres in the sciences and medicine being substantially supported by EU funding. Who will pay for that now?
Could London, the other cities/towns who voted Remain, join together to be the British contingent in EU? Then the xenophobic carrot-crunchers can have their Tory fields (unsubsidised by the EU - good luck with that), we'll have the oil, the financial sector, socialist governance. As they will be foreign territory outside EU they'll have to sell their unsubsidised farm produce to... well NZ, the US (if they're lucky), maybe Australia. We can buy cheaper subsidised farm produce from Ireland, France et al. Won't be long before they attempt Bentrance - but would we want them? And we're having Watford, no arguments about that.
The UK is leaving the EU. Get used to it and move on. The whinging from remain is getting increasingly boring now.
Remember that time Nigel Farage said 52-48 votes should lead to second referendum? please log in to view this image Tanveer Mann for Metro.co.ukFriday 24 Jun 2016 9:03 am please log in to view this image Britain ‘on the verge of recession’ ICYMI – last month he announced that he would fight for a second referendum on Britain in Europe if the remain campaign won by a narrow margin. Calling a small defeat for his leave camp ‘unfinished business’, he predicted a second referendum on Europe. He based this on 52% voting in, 48% out.. Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/remember-that-time-nigel-farage-said-52-48-votes-should-lead-to-second-referendum-5963900/#ixzz4CaUOMMp6
You can come and join EFTA. Fríverslunarsamtök Evrópu is only Ísland, Norway, Sviss and Liechtenstein but we have lots of money and fishing.
Hopefully we will have lots of money when it is not being sent to Brussels and also regain the fishing rights around our coast.
