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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jun 21, 2016.

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How will you be voting?

  1. Remain

    89 vote(s)
    46.1%
  2. Leave

    104 vote(s)
    53.9%
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  1. Bengals Tiger

    Bengals Tiger Well-Known Member

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    I copy here my post #469 from this thread:


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    This is even more true in England than it is in the US, unfortunately. After WWII, the powers-that-be in England recognized that they needed the best and brightest of the young generation in positions (in science and engineering, in particular) where they could maximize the speed of England's recovery from near-destruction (in Hull, in particular).
    They brought in the grammarschools in which the brightest students (NOT the richest), selected via the 11+, competed with their equally bright peers for the best careers.
    It worked very well, with bright kids from working-class backgrounds taking many of the best jobs from the "upper classes" who, until then, had automatically inherited those jobs despite their general inability to perform them effectively. The same is still true of England's "top" politicians, predominantly from the Eton-and-Harrow brigade of incompetent chinless wonders.
    Once their mission was complete, one generation later, the grammar school system was abruptly (and without consultation of the hoi-polloi) cast aside in favour of "comprehensive" education, specifically designed to dumb-down the general population, which it has achieved in spectacular fashion.
    So now, the best (most expensive) education resources, and therefore the best (paying) jobs, are safely back in the hands of the chinless powers-that-be. And, as George Carlin so accurately spelled out above, very few of the plebs are even aware of it.
     
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  2. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    The interesting thing is that comprehensive education doesn't seem to provide any understanding or analysis of history.
     
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  3. Bengals Tiger

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    Or maths, or science, or ... much at all. Hence the term, "dumbing down".
     
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  4. Mrs. BLUE_MOUNTAINS_BEAR

    Mrs. BLUE_MOUNTAINS_BEAR Well-Known Member

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    Born in 1938 I followed the same route via Riley High, becoming the first family member to have a university education. IQ was above average complimented by an excellent memory.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    A genius who's had a brilliant education, yet you regularly come across as a grade one prick on here.
     
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  6. tigerscanada

    tigerscanada Well-Known Member

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    As the vote was close to 50/50...it may be concluded that everyone falls into that category, given the distinct lack of convincing argument/evidence/facts of substance from both sides.
     
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  7. balkan tiger

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    Britain should seize the moment and be the founding member of a new grouping of European countries with free trade at its core. Other countries who are also rejecting the idea of a united states of Europe would be sure to want to join.

    It could be called the E.E.C.
     
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  8. Off The Line

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    Believe it or not that's my opinion. I don't use Twitter, I find it too self indulgent.
     
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  9. Idi Amin

    Idi Amin Well-Known Member

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    I don't have multiple usernames. I think your a dick head all on my own :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  10. Off The Line

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    Gove? Wow. Great choice if you're a hard right tory, I suppose.
     
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    I'd want to live on another planet if Gove became PM.
     
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  12. Obadiah

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    I apologise for upsetting you, it wasn't my intention. I voted to leave because the EU is an undemocratic organisation run in the interests of big business, primarily the big business interests of Germany, France and, ironically, the UK. It ran roughshod over the workers of Ireland, Spain, Portugal and Greece at the behest of the bankers of Germany and the UK. Membership hasn't stopped the cuts to services in this country, the attacks on trade unions rights, pensions, free education or the NHS. All of which Airlie Tiger's post implied I'd given away by voting to leave. Despite what he implied all those rights and benefits had been won, often against vicious opposition, by previous generations.

    My sole intention was to show that if you want something you have to do something to try and change things. No one will do it for you. If people want decent housing for rent building half a million council houses would be a start. Council's can borrow the money and pay the banks back from the rents collected. Nobody is going to do that unless there are campaigns to demand it.

    Despite voting leave I know injustice will continue and young people will still get a raw deal. That is until enough of you get together and say we've had enough and do something concrete about it. I will still do everything I can to help but the majority of my days are behind me.
     
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    You sir, are certainly quite something, by any measure.
     
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    A dickhead who at least knows the difference between your and you're. Now, who else doesn't?
     
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  15. Barchullona

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    Frightening to think that he is in a job where you can influence young minds. He at least will be in tune with them as he doesn't appear to have matured yet.
     
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  16. petersaxton

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    There was very little evidence or facts that could be used. The main arguments were about sovereignty and potential immigration. Gisela Stuart mentioned the "£350m per week" and said: "If it was my choice I would spend that on the NHS." Gisela Stuart is a Labour politician so would have no say - at the present time - on how it is spend. That didn't stop plenty of people making out the the Leave people were lying.
     
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  17. petersaxton

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    "hard right tory"? What does that mean?
     
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  18. petersaxton

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    Overstatement?
     
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    Don't worry, he'll change tomorrow.
     
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  20. Building 7

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    Now that we have disobeyed our owners they will attempt to punish us like a disobedient dog. Hold on tight, strap in and go with the ride. Hopefully in the long run it will be worth it.
     
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