Off Topic BREXIT

88 mph!

 

even though yknow.. i findi t FUNNY as **** that fellow scots are raging that 'england' swept us out of the eu.. ****ING VOTED TO STAY IN THE UK YOU UTTER ****S

 

Uh oh.

The drunken Scotch is posting.

Time for bed.

 

The Dutch and the Belgians will be pressing for their own referendums soon

 

Not only celebs but "experts" in banking, business etc - you know those who were in control when the financial crash happened...
Truth is people don't trust any of them anymore - and they certainly aren't going to tell the man on the street what to do or how to vote.

 

not drunk. i just find it funny

i am very pro UK

 

Sorry, but what you have written is utter ****ing bollocks. I have a degree, I'm a higher rate tax payer and I voted leave.

Many people from a variety of higher socio economic groups voted leave. I'd say that 90% of the people I know voted leave from Company directors to business entrepreneurs.

I can't believe the ****e some people write.

 

100% agree with you Chazz.

Sterling's post is totally out of order. Like the rest of the remain campaigners that are weeping away and having a pop at everyone.

Facebook is awash with the idiots. Seems there's a few on here too. I take exception to his comments.

 

someone close to me is a manager of a huge company that is in the £millions in profit and he voted leave.. sterling man that post was ridiculous.. that's the sort of post that makes patriotism wrong in england.. because it's 'only the uneducated' that wave the english flag and want out the EU.

this is why i haven't really commented on here, i am not partial to political debates because they can turn friend to foe in a blink of an eye

 

Not that surprising though. As far as I can see there aren't many options from here, and some include free movement exactly as it is now so he'll want his options open
1. We stay in the EU due to the referendum only being advisory rather than binding like other referenda
2. We join the thing that Norway are part of where we pay 85% of what we paid before, abide by the rules, including free movement, but don't get to vote on the rules
3. We invoke Article 50 (?) and start negotiating a deal that can only be put in place by all 27 countries agreeing to it, and presumably they'll be stingy to dissuade others leaving. Some leave campaigners don't seem to want that option yet at least as its skewed against leavers
4. We try and negotiate outside of the Article, but I think they all have to agree and probably won't
5. Others vote to leave and then the agreements all become easier because others want to do it too, but it could still be vetoed by some

Whatever it's going to be an interesting few years

 

Looking around a lot of foreign news feeds, the vote is getting a fair amount of credit and support from people and groups in many other EU countries, who are generally expressing the same issues. Sweden, Germany, France,Czech, Italy, the Netherlands and Spain are some that are pressing for referendums.

I didn't appreciate how widespread and deep the feeling was across Europe. A dislike of the dictatorial, unrepresentative and undemocratic nature of the parliament seems to be at least something that unites Europe. The EU commissioners must have their heads up their arse to have ignored these concerns.

As a bonus, it puts a small spanner in the works of the TTIP plans.

 

He didn't even make the claim.

 

I remember a poll in Germany a few years back now saying how the majority wanted the deutschmark back instead of the euro as they felt totally ripped off by the currency change. The whole EU project could be on the verge of unravelling

 

1 I can't see that happening
2 No UK government will agree to any deal that involves allowing free movement between EU and UK.
3-5 The EU doesnt need all 27 countries to agree to trade deals.

 

Belgium's another country where there could be a call for a referendum. The EU leaders seem to be leaning towards deals for us that deter other states from leaving. The Belgian PM was decidedly forceful, which could come back and bite him on the arse.

Merkel seems to be the one trying to be patient.

 

Has twitter started posting here?

 

Don't take any notice of people's reactions in the few hours after their cosy world collapses.

 

Researching both arguments? Are you being serious? Is there some body of research which will enable people to decide how to vote?
For me the big issues were sovereignty and immigration. I never believed anybody who told us what the situation would be in 2030.
One of the big problems with the country has been a lack of education. People have been to university and don't know how to work out 10% without using a calculator. All these people who get "educated" end up working in shops or fast food outlets.
If you judge whether something is a good idea by whether one person agrees with it or not then that shows the weakness in your own thought processes.

 

You think people like Bob Geldof understands dignity and democracy?