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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by ElTigre, Dec 30, 2014.

  1. ElTigre

    ElTigre Well-Known Member

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    It was just some lad with mental health issues, he spent a year coming up with the worst assassination plan in history.
     
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  3. spesupersydera

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    Don't you just love auto-correct!
     
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    Stupid bloody thing, I've amended it. <doh>
     
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    I've read a lot of cops do get killed though when people grab their guns.
     
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    Not really. Its like the 45th most dangerous job way behind mail man.
     
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    That's because people are always "going postal." A bit of American slang that I know.
     
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    Its more of a function of how many cops there are. Its true that its a dangerous job and that something like 100 plus cops are killed on the job every year but New York alone has over 10,000 police officers. Its simply not a job that is dangerous as a % of the employees who are injured or killed. Jobs like farm laborer, roofer, taxi driver etc are far more dangerous. No one cares when someone gets heat stroke and dies while picking tomatoes but that happens far more often than cops are killed.
     
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    Cereal killers.
     
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    Your usual corny response.
     
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    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    I'm amaized you noticed.

    I've barley started yet.
     
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    Think you oat to call it a day.
     
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    I know when I'm beet.
     
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    This isn't aimed at you specifically but I don't really like how people have been talking about mental illness recently thanks to this incident and Jo Cox's tragic killing. Yes I don't doubt that it's a factor but lots of people including myself are mentally ill and wouldn't do anything like that, if we were to do anything drastic it would be to ourselves.
     
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    True. Less than 1% of all gun related deaths are from mass shootings. Well over 50% of gun related deaths are from suicide. We dont treat people for mental illness in the US, I dont know what you all do but we dont do that here. People who have mental illness are sent to jail with no treatment which is why something like 80% of everyone in jail has untreated mental illness. The common thread in not just mass shootings but all shootings in the US beyond the access to firearms is mental illness. Its something that has to be addressed but it doesnt have to be vilified.

    This guy for instance in the Orlando case had a history of violence, had multiple disorders, had something like 200 incidents on his record in elementary school, had been suspended for 38 days in highschool, had been kicked out of a highschool because he brought a gun to school and tried to kill everyone, he had a long history of spousal abuse, people reporting him for making terrorist threats, racist statements, he was on the terrorist watch list at one point, had 2 FBI investigations against him, they had even tried to get him to not be allowed to carry a concealed firearm but they didnt succeed. This guy had a license to carry a concealed firearm that you have to APPLY to get. Beyond the issue of guns, this guy had given us plenty of warning that he needed help, and we did not have a system in place to help him. No one should feel bad about needing help, but we (everyone here in the US) should feel bad about not providing help when it is obviously needed.
     
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    There has been a mass shooting and hostage situation in a theater in Germany today. They are saying 25 wounded/killed.
     
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    Reuters reporting the gunman was shot dead after wounding & taking hostage several people at a cinema complex in SW Germany.
     
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    It seems at the moment the only person who's been killed is the gunman himself, who was shot by armed police.
     
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    Thats good news at least.
     
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    It looks like he didn't have a proper gun, it was some sort of stun gun and those 'injured' are just suffering the effects of the tear gas the police fired in.
     
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