Its not like the Premier league clubs get a vote anyway - its a personal issue and as with anyone those employed by Premier leagues clubs can vote as they wish. Speaking of Palace I could see somebody like Pardew voting out anyway!
As a non-betting person, can anyone explain to me why just about all the bookies are showing 1/4 odds on remaining and 3/1 on leaving? I know that the market moves depending on the stakes laid, but that would seem that there should be different odds as some have more customers than others.
I wondered about those people who fund campaigns like this. Would it be 'good value' to put a couple of million where your mouth is, to sway the odds and so swing the media (we all know Murdoch will only back the prevailing opinions (Thatcher, Major, Blair, Cameron). Just a fort.
Let's face it, there is much more betting on the currency exchanges. Buy on the cheap and sell when the prices rise. Bit like Tesco. These dealings can of course have an effect on any country's economic policy, yet they have no control over it.
Well they've tried to - but I think that a goodly number may have seen through their platform of fear, hatred and unsubstantiated waffle.
It's six and half a dozen, they are both as bad as each other. I've decided which way to vote in spite of who favours my decision, not because of them!
I see that BoJo and Gove have been trying to put clear deep water between themselves and Farage since the polls moved slightly in favour of remain. They both know that the Tory party does not like losers, suggesting to me that they are looking for a ready scapegoat should Leave lose. There has been some awful stuff coming out of the UKIP supporters which anyone with a scrap of decency would wish to stand well clear of, and not be associated with. It is only since the polls moved that we have seen this distancing, so I wonder just how genuine it is. I have seen some of this material and wonder just what sort of people would produce it. To me this debate has shown up how extremes of left or right are a bad thing for democracy. I do not know a single person who believes that the EU is perfect, but when you see that politicians in the UK from very different perspectives come together to put forward the case for improving it, without looking to improve their standing with the public, then the cynic in me suggests that some politicians are looking to find their way into power through the backdoor.
This just about sums up the Brexit argument SH. Totally lacking in content and based on comics and catchy slogans. By the way SH. you will be thrilled to hear that Arthur Scargill is also on your side.
But OFH, you really do know deep down that the EU will never reform. Those that have it in their power to drive and deliver reform will never do so because they do not see the need. Greece is a problem they have pushed onto the ECB, IMF and any bank stupid enough to keep on the bail out loans. They have already stated they will fix the problems with the Euro with tighter fiscal and political union. So they can carry on fiddling away, making grander and grander plans. As long as the tax revenues keep coming in from the Northern European countries the only thing that will change is they slow down the gravy train just long enough for a couple more near 3rd world countries jump aboard and the whole circus will start again. I am fairly convinced that the Remain vote will win as the status quo vote will tip the balance in their favour and I fear that this will be seen in Brussels (and once a month in Strasbourg) as a signal for more of the same - after all, if the biggest Euro-Sceptic country in the EU can vote to stay in, well we must be doing everything right mustn't we? But the problems will not go away. What I will be watching is the SNP as they will not be able to use a Brexit as a means to force another vote, but they will be looking for other opportunities to push for it - if they do, it may start the EU debate up again . Will also be interesting to see the rise of the right wing in other countries continue to grow.
Well at least Scargill would be honest to his politics and principles, unlike that lying hypocrite Comrade Corbyn. Latest additions this week to the Remain cause:- David Beckham - Semi-illiterate who lives in America Richard Branson - Lives aboard to avoid paying UK tax. His companies are now all registered abroad. Why would any one think that I should take advice from those 2 ****wits?
Surprise surprise, Markus Kerber, the head of the influential BDI which represents German industry, said it would be "very very foolish' if the EU imposes trade barriers on the UK in the event it votes to leave the EU. He added that any introduction of tariffs would lead to job losses in Germany and the UK. Leave have been saying for months that the reaction to Brexit would to tempered by self interest and common sense. The scare stories were always ridicules.
As opposed to the racist, zenophobic ****wits running the Leave campaign, not to mention Oberleutnant Farage?
w_y although I respect your views, I just cannot agree with a lot of what you have written above. Every day I make some time to read the French newspapers on-line to 1. improve my French and 2. to see how newspapers here report events, but with a different slant on them to the UK ones. If anything the ones here report facts in a rather bland way without trying to put much political opinion with them. There are regular reports of what the EU is proposing, and those proposals are sometimes examined in detail. This is just so very different to the sound bite views that appear in the UK press. What the debate in the UK has shown is that the leaders of the EU realize that unless they fix some of the problems with peoples concerns about the ideas coming from Brussels, there will be further calls for votes from other countries. No expansion is wanted for years, if at all. The EU army is not even an issue as it will not happen. The view of the top people in the EU is that they must listen more to the national governments than they have in the past. What I see is an organization that is slowly evolving to try and deal with the ever changing world. Is it perfect? Of course it isn't, but I believe that it does a lot more good than some of the UK press wish to admit. France next to Greece is the most Eurosceptic country in the Union, but when you read the comments from the ordinary person in the street, they do not like what they see happening in the UK with the divisions that will take years to heal. They do not want to see anything like it happen over here. The only party that would like to see it happen is the FN, and most of the time they are seen as an extreme. They do not have any real idea about running a country's economy, they just want to expel anyone from the country they do not like. If the vote turns out to be very close either way there will be calls for a second one. That would be the final tear to rip the UK to shreads.
There is much more political devision in France than the UK. The extremes are very well supported both the communists and the FN. It is the robustness of UK politics which allows strong opinions to be voiced on both sides but by next week it should settle down to normal middle of the road politics. Meanwhile in France the government of the day is paralysed. It cannot implement minor reforms without major industrial chaos.
It amazes me that the person who couldn't hack it France is such an expert on everything within the country.
I returned to the UK to create a multi million pound business and lots of jobs, something impossible in France.
Care to point me to where Johnson or Gove have made a comment or statement that is racist? Actually Farage as well...
