Agreed - I certainly question whether Britain (or, in particular, England) actually has a democracy. With the State apparently controlling what the majority of the media say - or, more to the point, what they don't say - and a government elected by a mere 36% of voters, I'd say not especially when you add to the mix the rumblings over Tory Election fraud - it all makes a mockery of the word. The thing that puzzles me most is why on earth Brexit is as popular as it is. Surely the prospect of having a country run by a party led by the likes of Johnson, Gove and IDS is frightening enough to make anyone vote Remain? Whatever happens, this must surely be Cameron's swansong - if Brexit win, he'll be out on his ear; if Remain win, he'll only have half a party behind him; and, given that the Referendum result won't be legally binding anyway, if he simply ignores the result he'll probably be kicked out too.
We know all about that in Jersey - I think I've mentioned before where we had a referendum on how many members we should have in the States and one of the options was to keep the numbers as they are now which was rejected but the result was declared void due to the low turnout. The irony in that is that the members of the States that represent St Helier, which are the majority, were elected with lower turnouts than the one for the referendum.
Just to add fuel to the immigration debate here are the percentages of those born in another EU. country from selected nations. UK. 3.97% France 3.19% Spain 5.06% Germany 4.21% Belgium 7.08% Netherlands 2.6% Switzerland (not in the EU.) has 19.97% of its inhabitants born in EU. countries. Austria 5.91% These figures do not substantiate the claim that hordes of other Europeans are trying to get to Britain - in fact Britain's figure looks quite normal, and, what you would expect for an industrialized nation. Yet apparently other countries manage to absorb these numbers without excessive paranoia - and maybe they are integrating them better.
Johnson, Gove and IDS sounds like a fantastic basis for a government, lots of skill, experience and decency, bring it on. The only thing I agree with you is Cameron is toast.
Johnson, Gove and IDS do not have a mandate - if Brexit happens, then there will be new elections and the changes of a Conservative majority in that (after all their public civil wars) is zero.
Do you mean 'chances'? There would be no need for another election, we now have fixed term parliaments. In the slim chance an election was called the Labour party is saddled with an unelectable cabinet so no chance of a change.
Yes, I did mean chances. Fixed election dates mean absolutely nothing if a government suffers either a vote of no confidence, or if they lose a working majority in mid term. It is time for you to come down from cloud cuckoo land SH. Whatever the situation may be in the country there are only 150 MPs in parliament who support Brexit - as against over 450 on the other side. Under those circumstances a Brexit led government would have no mandate and could not govern. Which means, new elections. The results of which suggest chaos, because all of the internal wars within the Conservative Party (which had been simmering for years) have come to the surface. My wishes for a Labour majority appear equally unlikely - and, although it would work, a coalition with the SNP would ruffle too many xenophobic feathers - the Tories have no potential coalition partners left (after they kicked the Lib Dems in the balls at the last election) and so we would be left with no workable government - the only majority which you would have in the government (amongst MPs) is to remain in Europe. We would then have 2 years of uncertainty with a weak government and then a second vote to ratify an exit from Europe - all very messy.
The Conservative Party was elected and gained a clear majority on its manifesto not on how many of its MP's supported Brexit. The Tories will unite after the referendum, maybe at the cost of Cameron leaving. There will not be an election. The Liberals have reverted back to an irrelevant minor party and the Labour Party has unelectable leaders. I'm afraid it looks certain we will have a Tory government until 2020 and probably one till 2025. We will also have the election boundary changes in effect before the next election, that will give the Tories an estimated extra 20 seats. I afraid you know as little about the UK political scene as you do on the thoughts of half of UK voters likely to vote for Brexit.
By the way SH. In reference to your last sentence. I studied Politics and am also active in it, so I can do without your patronizing remarks ! The problem is that so many of the voters in the UK. know nothing about Brussels or Europe whatsoever and are thus easily led by the nose by large sections of the media. In the event of a Brexit vote then the government will have to negotiate its way out of Europe on amicable terms - a task which appears impossible without further internal civil wars.
You obviously spent, and continue to spend, too long down the pub when you should have been studying!! The best outcome, which is looking increasingly likely, is Brexit will cause a major rupture to the EU with others demanding a referendum on membership. Hopefully the eurocrats foolish dream of a United States of Europe will be humanely killed off. The only losers would be the eurocrats, with their grubby fingers in the till, and the dominant Germans.
I was reading an investment report today for US investors looking to put money into property throughout Europe. Their analysis was that Osbourne was wrong to suggest a 10-18% drop in UK prices if there were an exit from the EU. The study said it would more likely be 20-30%. They went on to say that it could take at least ten years for a recovery, if it ever happened, going on to explain why it might never recover to current levels. I know that after the last property price crash it has taken 8 years for a house I sold just before it happened to get back to the price I received. Maybe this is a good thing to reduce the cost of a home for first time buyers, but it will throw an awful lot of people into negative equity again. The advice was do not put investment into the UK until matters have been resolved.
How 'in' or 'out' are you? Worth answering these questions as honestly as you can without bias https://speakout.38degrees.org.uk/c...m_source=generic&utm_campaign=post_2016-06-10
An excellent reason for all young people to vote Brexit but in reality supply and demand will ensure it does not happen.
Latest opinion poll by Opinium shows Brexit leading by a remarkable 19 points, 52% to leave, 33% to stay. Cameron desperately needs some pretty convincing scare stories to reverse the trend.
Amazing that you seem to be the only person anywhere on the net that has heard of this - where do you dig this up from. Or was it a poll of grandparents in Hastings ?
I daresay that the Express would be delighted with something of this sort - so much for press neutrality in a so called democracy. Along with most of the other low quality newspapers in England. I am confident that the British will not be bullied by the gutter press into making a decision which they would regret in future years.
Newspapers in most countries have a political bias, people are free to buy the paper of their choice or as I do read many different news sources online, I cannot see any evidence of bullying whatsoever. From being 10points behind several months ago leave may now have a healthy lead. I am also confident that the population will not be bullied, I'm not so certain now that remain will win.
An interesting comment today from one of my visitors. "No one over the age of fifty should have a vote. It is these middle aged and older people who will ruin the future of our children and grandchildren if they vote to leave. It should be left in the hands of the young whose future is at stake."
