We have a more than decent side. Van Gaal was bailed out by some young players forced in by injury hitting a purple patch. Their actual senior squad is awful.
It does not work like that, City there, Chelsea there ,Arsenal there and others. Jose Mourinho is not going to have easy ride.
Koscielny and Cech are done. Cazorla would have been a great player if Wenger had ever played him in position. Sanchez is more stroppy than Sturridge has ever been in his life but never gets called on it #racism
You never know, we could do a Leicester next season.. If we try to look objectively at our performances last season: In the cups (COC and Europa): we did well. Relatively speaking as we constatntly had to retrieve some poor away performances by some spectacular ones at home, no doubt helped by our crowd and also by the oppositions stage fright. In the league: if we are honest we did no better than Rodgers. The reason is that we kept losing points away from home. So there is reason for optimism as usual, but objectively there is nothing in our performances in the league which showed that Klopp will take us to the title next season.
@mito, I ain't saying it won't require "huge work" I'm saying JM is at OT after getting sacked at Chelsea, showed his vulnerability by taking the reigning champs to the relegation zone, he's got "huge work" to do. Pep took over as manager at his previous two clubs and inherited league winning teams, City is also "huge work" in progress next season. Spurs had their best season in decades last season and it has yet to be proven it wasn't a flash in the pan, they imploded in the last few games and went from title outsiders to 3rd, "huge work" by Poch to make top 4 a regular occurrence at Spurs. Arsenal are tradionally top 4 favourites but unless Wenger spends a lot of money wisely this summer they will start to go backwards rapidly, its almost happened a few times but they've managed end of season surges. I'm not now saying nor have ever said "next season is our season" but I'm optimistic that there'll be a vast improvement in player personell and better results on a consistent basis next season. Optimism 1-0 Pessimism
It doesn't even need optimism. MITO is just doing one of his little WUMs. Being #neutral Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea all have new managers who don't know their squads. If Wenger doesn't get off to a great start he is ****ed with the fans. And all of them are playing more games than us. Klopp will have time to be able to actually coach the players for the first time as manager.
Despite my end of season crawling into a hole of despair I'm all up for us winning everything again now.
Is this true? Whilst I agree that we should be optimistic, there is nothing in the performances in the league which should give us the huge optimism which some of us seem to have. He had time to look at our squad and he had the choice of bringing in players in the transfer window. He chose not to do anything except for Caulker. I have to agree with MITO. Objectively (but Leicester!) I think our likely place is 6th. If we manage to get into top 4 we would have done extremely well.
I felt that once we cleared the league cup final we did improve a bit. when we went to fa cup with a reserve team i felt he got his first team together and we did improve a bit. Certainly we reduced (but could not eliminate) silly goals for set plays. The reality is happy harry told us it was the worst lfc side ever and we were bang average.. He was right. our midfield in particular is best described as functional. In fairness he tried for Teixteria and didn't get him. He's tried for gotze and didn't get him. We know the quality is low. for me: 10th = poor but not unforeseen sadly 6th = good solid season 5th = very good top 4 = amazing the reality is everton have as good a team as us but not enough players up front yet. if koeman solidifies them they will be looking to top 8. Southampton need a new manager.. again if they do it right and keep players... west ham have a decent side (bit functional too and a solid counter attacking manager) Leicester have had some fun last year.. hunger is in question not even mentioned stoke So. top 10 city utd arsenal spurs (70plus points here) chelsea (5th, not sure about conte and their defense yet) LFC (i hope) West ham Everton Leicester Southampton stoke (11th) the top 4 will be well ahead but the rest.. anything could occur. we can't assume LFc are all that when the fact is as you say... we have to improve,, west ham, everton and Liecester are threats to us... thats bloody mid table
All potentially true...as is us getting the right players in and Klopp inspiring them into winning the league. No ****er knows, see Leicester City for details.
The Leicester thing is extreme but football is littered with inconsistency, you can make some reasoned predictioned but nothing is nailed on.
