Johnny Snerr should never have been killed. And if he was he should never have been brought back like that, not without enormous consequences. Now someone should just walk round cutting off any dead persons hair and bring everyone back to life. That broke the show. ****ty short sighted thinking.
She's brought back in the books. She's hasn't been in the show and I don't think they're including that story line.
It's like the "it was all just a dream" convention. It's a simplistic story tool and is a lazy way to get round plot holes. If it's done for convenience or to resurrect a popular character by demand it is usually detrimental to the integrity of the story. If it is a part of the plot, and considered, it does open a slightly silly precedent going forwards, as seems to have been noticed! It seems to be plot, rather than just to get round a difficult back story issue, so you would hope there is thought behind it as things develop.
Because precisely as someone else stated - every single character that now dies can be brought back to life. Are we going to have King Robert and Joffrey back side by side with Ned also resurrected to reveal to the former that the "yellow haired ****" isn't his?
Few are brought back: 1) not many people can do it 2) the people who can do it only do it if they deem it necessary or because it's part of their 'plan' etc. 3) they don't actually like or enjoy bringing people back It's a very small part of the story and it isn't actually that important.
Im not the one bleating on about it! I said I think it's stupid and I dont like John. If there hadnt been any questions from other people trying to justify it then it wouldve ended there. And none of that ruins my point that anyone could be brought back.
Apologies i've not read that much of the thread. George himself has quite a good take on it: 'My characters who come back from death are worse for wear. In some ways, they’re not even the same characters anymore. The body may be moving, but some aspect of the spirit is changed or transformed, and they’ve lost something. One of the characters who has come back repeatedly from death is Beric Dondarrion, The Lightning Lord. Each time he’s revived he loses a little more of himself. He was sent on a mission before his first death. He was sent on a mission to do something, and it’s like, that’s what he’s clinging to. He’s forgetting other things, he’s forgetting who he is, or where he lived. He’s forgotten the woman who he was once supposed to marry. Bits of his humanity are lost every time he comes back from death; he remembers that mission. His flesh is falling away from him, but this one thing, this purpose that he had is part of what’s animating him and bringing him back to death. I think you see echoes of that with some of the other characters who have come back from death.' Martin makes it clear that Beric Dondarrion is out of sorts after his resurrection. Listen to him talk about it in A Storm of Swords: Can I dwell on what I scarce remember? I held a castle on the Marches once, and there was a woman I was pledged to marry, but I could not find that castle today, nor tell you the color of that woman’s hair. Who knighted me, old friend? What were my favorite foods? It all fades. Sometimes I think I was born on the bloody grass in that grove of ash, with the taste of fire in my mouth and a hole in my chest. Are you my mother, Thoros? And Beric’s problems are nothing to compared to those of Catelyn Stark, who is resurrected as the implacable Lady Stoneheart after being murdered at the Red Wedding. Dondarrion seems to have retained some measure of human feeling, at least, but Stoneheart wants to do nothing but go around the Riverlands killing her enemies. She even turns on Brienne, whose actions seem to be at odds with what Catelyn asked her to do when she was alive but who has a good explanation for her behavior. Stoneheart, however, is not interested in shades of grey. She is all vengeance. Martin disapproves of resurrection generally, but believes that his use of it is justified by bringing characters back from the dead much changed. Is he right? Stoneheart is a popular character, so fans seem to be on his side. However, I appreciate how HBO’s Game of Thrones has backed away from the resurrections—they’ve included Dondarrion, but there’s no sign of Stoneheart. I think this is for the best—it keeps the world of the show more grounded. http://winteriscoming.net/2016/05/02/on-game-of-thrones-resurrection-and-coming-back-wrong/
He can do what he wants cant he? Doesnt have to justify to gimps like me, it's his story. I'm just saying I dont like it. I could always stop watching...
In the book, her only significant storyline (after death) is the capture and subsequent hanging of Brienne of Tarth and Podrick Payne - if they were to have included that, if memory serves, it should have already happened.
Yes I think so. Although wasn't Brienne's hanging the same as the John Snow death - in that you assume it's been done etc. but the chapter ends right at the point of the act so you're not 100%?
