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Off Topic The positive case for Remain

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  1. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Is that an actual precise fact? 100x seems a fairly convenient round number.
     
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  2. Billy Death

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    Bollox. <ok>
     
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  3. The Relic

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    I can'r yet walk as far as the polling station, but I;ve told a few of my friends that I will crawl on my hands and knees to vote OUT. I'm hoping I can stretch it a bit and make that unnecessary. But I will do it if I have to. I am placing that OUT vote come hell or high water.
     
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  4. The Relic

    The Relic Well-Known Member

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    Yep. The EU's f**king Britain.
     
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  5. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan Forum Moderator

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    Aye . . . . well said, Whitey :emoticon-0105-wink:



    <whistle>
     
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  6. over18and legal

    over18and legal Well-Known Member

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    Your right there mate.
    The EU have offered to send the north all their criminals <laugh>
     
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  7. MrRAWhite

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    1. From the Guardian
    The size of the investment gap between London and the rest of England was made stark by new analysis showing Crossrail alone is earmarked to receive nine times more funding than all the rail projects from the North’s three regions combined.

    Figures derived from a research report by IPPR, show Londoners receive £5,203 more per head on capital investment than people in the north-east – a discrepancy sure to reignite a long-running row on whether London’s growth is coming at the detriment of the rest of the UK.

    Earlier this week the UK chancellor George Osborne endorsed a £15bn plan to improve infrastructure in five northern cities this week. Although he did not commit to any funding, Osborne said the overall aim was:

    To end the imbalance in the UK economy so our success is not wholly dependent on the global city of London, so we have across the north of England individual cities that are better connected, have a better quality of life, and are able to create

    New analysis of public infrastructure spending by IPPR North lays bare the gap between how much capital expenditure there is in the capital than the rest of England.

    Our additional analysis of the 2013 government infrastructure plan, the IPPR’s data source, showed that the £14.5bn total capital expenditure planned for Crossrail outmatches the £1.6bn earmarked for rail projects in Yorkshire and the Humber, the north-east and the north-west by nine to one.

    Other projects in the capital including tube improvements mean that £5,426 will have been spent on each resident of London compared to £223 on those in the north-east region. That’s over 24 times as much.

    On the surface of it, residents of the north west seem the most fortunate region outside London, with project spending at £1,248 per head. However, Guardian analysis found that more than half of that total was down to the decommissioning of the Sellafield nuclear plant in Cumbria – necessary, doubtless, but hardly an infrastructure ‘improvement’ as most people would understand it.
     
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  8. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Does that not just make sense though?

    Surely that happens in every country.

    London and the South East probably contributes far more than Hull and Doncaster do anyway, or am I just reading this wrong and missing your point?

    Edit: Nowhere near 100x #RAWsFacts <laugh>
     
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  9. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    The figure is actually 24x which is still incredible..and that is per capita, so with London and the South East's huge population the amount per region will be far more than 100x.
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    You said 100x per person though. That was your made up fact. <ok>

    Of course London will get more investment than Sunderland.

    Sunderland will get 24x more investment than some small village in Northern Scotland too.

    Am I missing the point? I think I might be.
     
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  11. MrRAWhite

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    Yes.. It is the amount given per person . each person in London gets over £5,000 spend on infrastructure..This is 24x more than a person in the North East..
    PS.. The 100x was used to make a point that they get a whopping better deal than we get and wan't stated as a fact..
     
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  12. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Ah, my bad, I thought when people write, "The fact is...", It's usually followed by a fact. <laugh>

    Ok so I wasn't missing the point, I got it, I just don't see it from your view.

    Do you expect equality on this 'per head' thing or just a bit more per person in the north?
     
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  14. MrRAWhite

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    I do not expect someone in the south east getting 24x more spent on infrastructure that's for sure..
     
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  15. Bexinio

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    Mind the gap: London against the rest it was called (bbc program)
     
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  16. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Hull <laugh>

    That city has nothing going for it, how the hell has Hull crept in there?
     
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  17. Bexinio

    Bexinio Well-Known Member

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    Ha hey don't shoot the messenger. Maybe they just stopped at Leeds going east I can't quite remember, but certainly a high speed rail network would be great boost between Leeds and Manchester.
     
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  18. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Does the South East pay 24x more into the pot than the rest combined?
     
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  19. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    There's gonna be a high speed underground link to London from Mcr built before 2030 apparently.

    It's gonna push house prices through the roof in this city.
     
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  20. MrRAWhite

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    Not per person that's for sure..I know their average wage is higher than that of the North east, but bloody hell not 24x higher..
     
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