Wow !...Beat That !

It's one that could go on forever really.

Ali is up for debate for sure but not Pele.

If McGregor goes around kicking people in the street black and blue does that make him the greatest MMA fighter of all time? No.

Pele was part of a very, very good Brazilian era. Not once did he emerge as their best player during any WC he played in. Often ending up in the shadow of greater players like Eusebio.

 

The queen 《cough cough》

Hitler 《cough cough》

Churchill 《cough cough》

 

Yep all of them to.

 

Might as well just close the thread now

 

I was half tempted to post something similar.

 

Like it.

 

Love the clip where Ali calls him out, after the interviewer ask cough what he wants to say back and he says something like "nothing I want to fight him"

 

If anyone could match clay for words, it was clough.

 

Churchill and Hitler both more associated with the early part of the 20th century not the latter. The Queen is famous on these shores, but is not a global icon on the same level as Pele or Ali.

 

That could be said of most people mate.

 

Haway RAW! There are villagers in Papua New Guinea and Pacific Islanders know who the Queen is.

She's head of the Commonwealth, the second largest global body after the UN

And to say Churchill and Hitler are early 20th Century is a fact. To say they're not massive 20th Century figures is just plain silly.

 

They were nee Clay or Pele



Which is why earlier i used elvis as example

 

Nelson Mandela must be up there

 

Probably. All of Africa (unlike clay and pele). All of the USA and Europe.

So aye. Good call.

 

What about the Queen of tarts?

 

John Cardew?

 

I only he could step on one of those landmines.

It'll be like a plume of scented lavander and celery with a whiff of harry monk.

 

I read somewhere not long back that the Queen is the most recognisable person on the planet.