Ex-Manager Thread

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Who would you have as our next Manager

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Jaidi said:
So honesty is black and white, no grey then :emoticon-0110-tongu
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Correct. You can not tell the whole truth, but once RK said he wasn't interested in Everton and he had a years to go which he intended to honour he dug a hole. Even had he simply said "I don't want ot talk about Everton." he could have got away with it.
 
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Honesty is complicated. A lie is something we say knowing it to be untrue. Our future actions don't make it a lie in retrospect. If I tell you it is not raining and it is, but I believe it is not, then I am telling a false truth - not a lie. If I say I am not going out tonight, then someone phones me up with a great offer and I do go out, then that wasn't a lie either.

I suspect Koeman did believe he as staying last week. Therefore he didn't lie. However, he has been tempted by big money, and we can say he lacks integrity as he has changed his position. However, has he ever been knowingly dishonest?




Who cares? Two-faced Dutch prick!
 
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craig222 said:
Hi ladies and gents.

First time poster but long time reader.

With regards to Ronald and Everton, I'll be very interested to see the contract length he gets given. What is his average stay at one club? 3 years? Maybe 4? Now if you think realistically how long it would take Everton to rebuild and push on into a European spot (first season will be fairly tricky in my opinion) you're probably looking at a good few seasons. It's been mentioned before that the Everton squad is ageing so £100 million won't stretch that far (unless he unearths some gems like Mahrez or Kante). Plus, the stadium that's been promised to him in this new vision of the Everton owner, well from what I've read they haven't even chosen on a location yet....
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Welcome Craig. I'll be the annoying one and point out that Koeman took us into the European places in his first season with a depleted squad and less funds than he will get at Everton. Also I'm not so sure about the 'ageing' squad thing either. Plenty of quality youngsters there.
 
Ok, not saying this is gospel but thought I'd share.

My brother was at St Mary's this morning getting a few bargains in the club shop. Said the rumours are that RK and EK cleared their desks and said there goodbyes yesterday afternoon.

Club are looking to keep continuity with Sammy and Barbie Ken etc, and this will be part of the deal with incoming manager.

Nothing surprising there, but hopefully getting closer to some closure?
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
Not sure there is hysteria on here...wouldn't,t dare go on saints web. I think severe disappointment is the main feeling....our hero has feet of clay. I hope we will just carry on, though there is a chance of a minor blip whilst the new manager beds in. The king is dead, long live the king...we march on. The board have earns our support.
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I am clearly getting my forums mixed up.
I think I remember why this was the one I joined!
 
Black said:
Welcome Craig. I'll be the annoying one and point out that Koeman took us into the European places in his first season with a depleted squad and less funds than he will get at Everton. Also I'm not so sure about the 'ageing' squad thing either. Plenty of quality youngsters there.
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Valid points, I grant you. If I was the presenter of match of the day though, I'd be making a promise to present it in a mankini if they make europe next season. Thankfully I'm not.
 
Brixham Saint said:
For what it's worth here's my top 3 and in no particular order:

1 Emery - Looking for a new challenge. Seville similar to Saints in size and structure. Experience in Europa League
Used to working in similar conditions, where we buy players young, then sell on for large profits.

2. FDB - No approach to club needed. Experience again with geling young players and a great youth system. European Experience. Beat RK twice to win the Dutch league (I think?).

3. AVB - Again no club to approach. Experience in Europe and the Premier League. Very well respected throughout Europe. Harshly treated at Chelski and Spuds. And out of the 3 less likely to leave when a bigger or richer club comes calling?

Outside bet would be Flores.

Getting quite exited really. Just hope we don't give the job to Martinez now. Aaarrrggghhh
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I would have thought Martinez has been found out, especially defensively. To take a side with Coleman, Stones, Barkley and Lukaku to 11th should show that he is not quite top half material. Weren't they similar in terms of performances to Liverpool when he took over?
 
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Funny story on AVB. I had an interview at Chelsea a few years back as a graphic designer for their tactical team - Jose who was manager then was a big fan of using graphics and stuff. And the head of media (who was managed by AVB at Chelsea) confessed that AVB is a HUGE Football Manager fan. Uses it loads apparently. There's your interesting fact of the day.
 
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Gregm88 said:
I would have thought Martinez has been found out, especially defensively. To take a side with Coleman, Stones, Barkley and Lukaku to 11th should show that he is not quite top half material. Weren't they similar in terms of performances to Liverpool when he took over?
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How funny would it be though if Martinez took us on another step though???


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AVB isn't a bad shout.
Must not forget Chelsea had to cough up £15m to get him,(really good at Porto).
Did well at Spurs and Zenit.
Also no chain involved as he isn't attached to any club at mo.= no compo package to pay.
 
saintsational said:
Looking at the Everton squad, budget etc I'm absolutely delighted that we tied van dijk and forster to long term contracts. Not saying they would have gone but they may well have been targets one and two.
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You'd imagine any part of the clubs deal with Everton was that they wouldn't be able to purchase our players this Summer.
 
One thing I have felt for the last 2 years is that our positions have been slightly false. We often haven't played particularly great football but the results have generally been good.

I've always tried to hide the fact that under Poch we used to blow teams away and the season we had under his guidance there were games where we looked generally unbeatable.

Am I alone on this?
 
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Saintjoey said:
One thing I have felt for the last 2 years is that our positions have been slightly false. We often haven't played particularly great football but the results have generally been good.

I've always tried to hide the fact that under Poch we used to blow teams away and the season we had under his guidance there were games where we looked generally unbeatable.

Am I alone on this?
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We have blown a few teams away this season but more importantly we have ground out results. That is not just luck but the sign of a good team. Great teams don't blow away every PL team, that doesn't happen. Them win a few amazing games, an occasional cricket score and lots of gritty 1-0 wins.
 
Part of the carrot being dangled is that Everton are to build a new stadium........don't know why but I have a feeling he won't be there by the time it is built.......be it sacked or to chase more money elsewhere.
 
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