Rule R7

Thanks. By the looks of it they only offer concessions in the family enclosure and presumably to away supporters.

 

I have at length, so has Dutch and Mr Shoes. Giving priority to kids and senior citizens in the cheapest zones is a concession. It may be enough of a concession for the Premier League to accept our promotion. If not there will be some minor tweaks to get us to comply with the rules.

 

The only difference, is it really as trivial as that when placed in the context of the discussion? It seems to be a concession of the nature of a price reduction or discount, wouldn't you agree?

But they aren't doing that are they? There is no discount concession available and arguing on the strength of what might be is just plain daft. A concession of that nature would satisfy the rules and calling it a victory is not relevant. You could campaign for lower prices and/or extended (across the stadium) concessions, a campaign for concessions would be redundant; it isn't now.

Arsenal have concessions that the PL are happy with and the supporters appear to accept; why would they tell them to rip them up?

The number, although of interest, really has no bearing on whether or not there are concessions.

Have you got anymore red-herrings?

 

Unsatisfactorily in each case.

"It may be enough" - what does that mean? How much of a concession do you think it will take? What minor tweaks do you think might be needed - could it possibly be price reductions/discounts?

 

I've already told you. In the family stand, ie S3, 4 and 5, a child would pay £22 per month, an OAP £27 and an adult £34.14. Alternatively, if there are no price reductions, £27 for a child, £30 for an OAP and £34.14. Outside the family stand everyone is charged at the adult rate irrespective of their age. That, as far as I understand it is how the Arsenal system works. Voila we have concessions acceptable to the Premier League, if we haven't already.

Do you think allowing concessions for a small part of the ground whilst everywhere else people pay the same is acceptable? I certainly don't.

 

Thanks OLM, I was hoping I was wrong for obvious reasons.

 

It is and it isn't. Once its full, and we're talking about 3 blocks only, then's it no more concessions. Cityfiley and his nieces would have to move to the South Stand to take advantage. No more young people in the bulk of the north unless they can afford it. No more families in the East unless they have the money.

It would be a slight adjustment to please the Premier League, nothing more. The club will get £100 million from the TV companies it can easily afford to re-introduce concessions in every part of the ground.

 

I've already told you. Offering a discount concession (I note you don't differentiate ), no matter how widely or how much of a discount, is a concession. The levels of that concession could then be contested, but I would no longer be contesting a total absence of concessions.

 

And the concession is one of price reduction? (Just to clarify as other so-called concessions keep being muted)

 

I have been down that road with, Obi, and it doesn't seem to sink in.

 

A concession is also offering preferential access to the cheap seats. All depends on which side of the concessions debate the Premier League falls. If I gambled my money would be on City's side.

 

You've just confirmed that Arsenal don't have concessions outside the family enclosure. Its only ridiculous if we don't sell out the stadium. That is now less likely and would it matter to Ehab if we didn't, I doubt it.

 

I think your money would be safe, gamble away.

As a matter of interest, the area that you say the concession for elderly and kids is allowed for their right-to-move, is it priced the same as any other zone/area in the stand?

If there is another zone that would cost the same, but they would not have a right to move to, would they be able to move there (or simply join there) anyway, without using this so-called right-to-move concession?

In the right-to-move zone, would they have the right to expect other supporters to be expelled to other parts of the ground, to facilitate their right-to-move?

What do you realistically believe the reasonable intent of R7 is?

 

Yes the price is cheaper in the family enclosure for OAPs and children.

Just as the price would be cheaper for children if City decided to increase the monthly payments for adults and OAPs (but no by as much) in the family stand. Although kids would be paying the same their price would be cheaper than an adults.

 

Now I know how Arsenal's system works, rule 7 means next to nothing.

Zone 1 is cheaper than other areas with a similar view within the ground. Its all in the brochure which you can find here

http://www.hullcitytigers.com/documents/earn-your-stripes-brochure116-3061002.pdf