I haven't heard Norwich fans boo Jerome or get on his back. I doubt very much he reads these boards and I don't recall anyone criticising anything other than his goal tally. You think Usain Bolt only runs fast because people clap?
Just turning the argument a bit, how would you improve things? Give all of them a pat on the back every time they fail, and keep doing it ad infinitum? It won't improve things either as has been proved by us getting relegated. As DD quite rightly points out, these men are professionals and paid a huge amount of money to do their jobs which they train for just about every day, they have failed to do their jobs satisfactorily and in the process disappointed thousands of people, cost their employers Millions of pounds and made a mockery of all of us who pay our hard earned money to watch them. You want to give them another chance even after all that? The impression that puts out is, its okay to carry on the way you were, there will be no consequences!
Okay, I´ll just pop back for a sec, then , and if you won´t answer the question above, I will - the fact is, you can´t ! Now I have gone - bye
The question was how can I possibly tell if Jerome's poor haul of goals three (3) was down to me summarising our players contribution over the season posting on an Internet forum ?. I can very easily answer that , It has nothing to do with his inability to score whatsoever. If Ruddy or Jerome are so mentally weak that any form of criticism from the fans makes them turn out sub standard performances then we should get shot of them.
After trawling through this thread I would just like to simply answer the OP's question. When there is failure in any walk of life, someone or some people are to blame for it. There has to be a root and branch enquiry as to what went wrong, why it went wrong and who is to blame, otherwise it will in all probability happen again. It's not fecking rocket science, someone or something is always to blame. In conclusion (and not wishing to fall out with RBF), the answer quite simply is obvious and the question pointless
Can you blame players for not being as skillful as other teams' players? Of course you can't, you're not being reasonable!
I think we covered this Dave , we didn't match the opposition's work rate distance covered and concentration. Bassong Martin and Ruddy were particularly prone to lapses in concentration leading to stupid goals. Yes it was their fault they didn't focus on what they were doing for 90 mins. Once or twice is ok but this was a symptom of most of our games.
We're going round in bloody circles here, we could have, should have stayed up even with the calibre of player at our disposal. Our playing squad was not the worst in the division, although that's only my opinion, therefore I blame the manager and coaching staff for our demise. THEY have cost this football club millions yet they remain in a job, in any other walk of life or indeed at any other football club they would have been dismissed.
We spent a huge amount of money on a experienced "skilful" premiership player, Niasmith! He hasn't shown any of those qualities or commitment......give him a pay rise?????? On course he and others are to blame!
I don't think RBF is doing it on purpose but this thread where he categorically refuses to place blame on anyone at the club for our dire season ,relegation and loss of millions , and the thread about being better off out of the Premier league because the amount of money involved is vulgar and we should just know our place and stay between the Championship and League 1 are absolutely dripping with madness. He is perfectly entitled to his opinions but he has set the bar Incredibly low for my club and I hope his views are not shared by the majority of our fans.
Like I said, I never set out with any hopes of reforming any of you, you who think it´s perfectly right and fair to lay the blame each week, will no doubt, continue to do so. I never will, and therein lies a crucial difference between us. Even when things are going nose-down, I would always resort to support and encouragement to try and turn things around, not blame. I still don´t understand the need to do it, or what good you can possibly think it will do to those being blamed.(in fact ILD has already admitted that it probably doesn´t do any good), so I´m afraid I don´t get it. We must beg to differ on this - Fine by me, I certainly won´t be losing any sleep over it, but nor will I necessarily just keep quiet and accept it, if I think it´s unjust.
RBF you begin with a player like Wolfswinkel for example . You give him a massive salary tell him he's a World beater start a clever marketing campaign with his name in depicting him of being a blood thirsty predator "Feed the wolf " etc . Sell shirts to kids with his name on at a discounted price. Everybody encouraged him and heaped praise on him and Ricky scored in his first game. Weeks turn into months and even though he doesn't look like scoring we still cheer him on shout his name and applaud every run he makes. At the end of the season he finishes on one goal . Is this satisfactory? Should he be given more time and more praise to turn this run around ? Did the fans fail by not clapping loud enough ? I will answer those questions RBF , NO and his services were hired out to anyone who would pay his wages. I would personally give him pre season and assess whether he has learnt anything by playing on the continent at our massive expense but perversely he would probably refuse to play in the lowly Championship.
So let me get this straight, what you're saying is that we should not apportion blame to anyone regarding our pathetic attempt to stay in the Premier League? Going by that mantra, if we elect a new Government and they completely feck up the economy we should just shrug our shoulders, say never mind and re-elect them to see if they can do better next time ?
KIO, you are not stupid, why can you not understand what RBF is saying? It seems perfectly clear to me, I'm not stupid either but I'm certainly no brain of Britain, it just baffles me that you can't see it!
KIO, we´re both trying to get to the same end product, even if our expectations of what that end product can be, are wildly differing. The only difference between us is, that you would resort to blame and criticism to get there, while I would go with encouragement and support, and if my way takes forever and a day, then so be it, I´ve not as yet seen any sign that your way is doing it any quicker. And you can bang your head as much as you like, the feeling is entirely mutual.
I would also like to throw some blame at our talent scouts that appear to have the business acumen of Jack returning from market with magic beans . The Belgian chap Wolfswinkel Lafferty and Naismith cost over £3Om .
Mr. Donuts, it´s all very well having sky-high expectations and ambitions, and I really do hope that you and others like you, get everything you want, but I just don´t see it happening at Norwich, and until I ever see any possible signs of it happening, I will keep my expectations under wraps. And by the way, I haven´t set the bar incredibly low for the Club, I can just happen to see where that bar is, and accept it. Firstly, a lot of you can´t seem to see where the bar is, and secondly, you don´t and won´t accept it, because in case you hadn´t noticed, the bar IS low and HAS ALWAYS been on the low side. Norwich do not go out and splash millions on a whim, risking the club´s finances, as some do, they´ve always erred on the side of caution. That is exactly one of the reasons why, unlike similar Clubs in size and stature, we are still relatively solvent. You may not like it that way, but while the owners the CEO, and the board consider that the best way to run the Club, you´re going to have to lump it, or start a process to get rid of them - and good luck with that by the way, because you´ll certainly need it. I really do want the Club to reach its maximum potential you know, and yes, it´s possible, if we had a wealthy foreign owner, a new board, a new manager, a whole new set of players, a stadium twice the size, and a gargantuan supply of luck, we might just find that the sky´s the limit - but that´s an awful lot of ifs. So in the meantime, my expectations for what is realistically possible at the Club, and my ambitions for what we can realistically hope to achieve, remain unaltered.
I get where you're coming from RBF and would prefer to be owned by Delia and managed by Neil because they deserve loyalty for keeping us afloat and getting us promoted last season. The ovation that Neil and the team received after the Watford game was proof that the fan base are not unrealistic in our goals as a club . However with £170.m in TV money at stake we could have gone about things with a little more ambition before the season in areas that most people saw our glaring weaknesses. Watford and Bournemouth strengthened and stayed up we went with what we had and went down. I believe if we had signed Klose and Afobe before the season started we would have Invested £20m and had a better chance of survival . Selling Bradley Johnson in the last 10 minutes of the transfer window was also bizzare. He was a key figure in the play offs and dragged us up last season.
