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Off Topic The Ched Evans to Oldham decision is...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by South West 'Ulltra, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    It seemed all along like he was punished for being famous and of course, a man.

    If sleeping with someone who hasn't specifically consented is rape then almost everyone has committed rape at some point.
     
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  2. Tobes

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    You've not answered my simple question. Do you think it'd have ever made it past the desk Seargent if the supposed perpetrators were a couple of local lads?

    I think you know the answer....

    I don't even think it'd have made it to the Police at all personally, as she'd have never reported it, as she knew fine well what had gone on. She saw an opportunity as they were footballers. I'm pretty sure the comments made by her on social media or via text post the incident will form part of the new evidence that's quashed the conviction, we'll see.

    As for rape not being rape if someone can't remember giving permission. Unless the victim has been drugged or is comatose and not capable of giving permission, then not for me it isn't. There was no mention of drugs and she was only 2 1/2 times the drink drive limit, so hardly smashed and completely incapable.

    Any woman could wake up in the morning after getting wrecked in a club and going home with a one night stand, wake up in the morning, not remember either having sex or giving consent and cry 'rape' if that statement is taken as a given.
     
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  3. Obadiah

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    I answered the question. I'll repeat it, probably not.

    You haven't answered my question, but you took more words to avoid answering than me.

    The one night stand was MacDonald not Evans and he was found not guilty.
     
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    This.

    It sets a dangerous precedent if a woman only has to come out and say "I was raped" and gives ex-girlfriends and wives the perfect ammunition to **** someone's life up.

    Shame that you can have your life ruined for being a man if a woman takes a dislike to you or sees profit/fame and it's a shame that feminists don't seem to care about equality when something massively favours women. But there we go. Can of worms.
     
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  5. The Omega Man

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    **** it!
     
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  6. Obadiah

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    It sets no precedent as she has never claimed she was raped.
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    It sets a precedent for charging people with rape when nobody has claimed they were raped.
     
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    Eh?
     
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  9. Blaknamberblood

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    Alas the decision is no longer in the hands of the police, CPS make all decisions on such matters these days.
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    Unless the CPS get a file sent to them by the police, there's no decision for them to make.
     
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  11. Blaknamberblood

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    Such decisions relating to a serious offence are sent as a matter of course, no ifs or buts. This stemmed from previous investigations not taking the victim seriously.
     
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  12. GlassHalfHull

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    Wasn't it a question if whether she could have given consent, as she was drunk? It didn't help that he joined his mate and tagged along when said mate had taken her to the hotel. However Ill advised his actions were or weren't it's not decided on the basis of his morals.
     
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  13. Obadiah

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    Like I said she never said she was raped. She went to the police to report the theft of her handbag. That's from memory and I can't be bothered to look it up.
     
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    In the Ched Evans case, the 19-year-old victim did not go to the police to report that she had been raped. She made no complaint whatsoever. She had no memory of being raped. She called the police to report a missing handbag. It was the police who suggested that she might have a case for rape against two well-known footballers. - Telegraph.

    She didn't even know she'd had sex until Evans told police when they questioned him over the handbag.
     
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  15. Obadiah

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    A nice summary of the case for the prosecution.
     
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    True, if she was so intoxicated not to know then she could not have given informed consent, thus it constitutes rape
     
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    It might be if everyone hadn't watched her arriving on CCTV looking right as nine pence.
     
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    So they got her pissed (or worse) in the hotel room ??
     
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    She didn't drink at the hotel, she went from being fine to being so pissed she couldn't remember anything, as a result of black magic.
     
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  20. Obadiah

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    The jury would have seen the CCTV and they were the only ones that counted. There also the CCTV evidence showing her sprawled out on the street and the bed sheets?
     
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