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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, May 23, 2016.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Good Morning Everyone,


    has slated Leeds Utd in the Italian press.

    He said :-

    He was disappointed with the quality of coaches and the corporate organisation.

    He also went on to say that the tactical work in training was also lacking

    To be honest, I think Leeds got off rather lightly. I'm sure he could have said a lot more.

    Meanwhile the 31 year old striker has been linked with a move to Birmingham. So much for being homesick!!!



    Noel Whelan has written in his column today in the YEP that "the club has been run shambolically in my eyes. So (Cellino) please sell."





    We are still no clearer as to who will take the hot seat at Elland Road. Here are the latest odds.


    Leeds United Manager First League Game 2016/17 Season

    Karl Robinson 1/1 John Sheridan 3/1 Steve Evans 6/1 Walter Zenga 8/1
    Ivan Juric 9/1 Quique Sánchez Flores 10/1 Neil Warnock 14/1 Dougie Freedman 18/1
    Fabio Cannavaro 20/1 Giuseppe Iachini 20/1 Simon Grayson 28/1 David Moyes 28/1
    Tim Sherwood 33/1 Roberto Martinez 33/1 Paul Clement 33/1 Nigel Pearson 33/1
    Massimo Rastelli 33/1 Michael Appleton 33/1 Mick McCarthy 40/1 Dennis Wise 40/1
     
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  2. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning all... One of Cellinos own Italian imports commenting on the shocking way we are being run and the lack of infrastructure, can anyone defend Cellino this time?
     
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  3. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning ristac, now is the time that Cellino needs to make a decision. Either walk away or seriously invest. If he invested 15m in players, got Pearson back in (by offering him 1.5m a year) and was made to step aside
     
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    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Morning all. Antenuccis lack of interest in Leeds has been apparent for a long time. Been trying to engineer a move a way for over a year. Hardly surprising to see him leave a couple of parting shots. Surprise though by the Birmingham link. If he's as good as he thought he was, I would have expected a club like Real Madrid to snap him up. Don't panic lads, we'll be grand
     
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  5. LeedsLover

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    When you look at the coaches we've had since he arrived, Darko, Redders, Rosler and Evans then he ain't wrong, also, I totally agree with him, the tactical training seems none existent on match day.

    I've always said it, our midfield is our achilles heel, basically, it's rubbish, and that includes Cook despite all the over hyped media articles and comments about him.

    The good and better players leave while we keep those that are mediocre, the exceptions aside of course.

    When we have a midfield that can control the midfield and make defence splitting passes, then and only then will we be able to compete for the top 2, or top 6 positions.

    We have a good defensive wall in Berardi, Beluschi, Cooper and Taylor however, they were put under constant pressure by our own lack luster midfield who were not only constantly run over, couldn't help out, but couldn't service our decent strikers often enough.

    While some supporters are focusing their anger and hatred towards Cellino, and looking for any excuse and reason to blame him, they're totally blind to what's happening on the pitch and how the coaches aren't doing their job properly cos they favour their favourites.

    Wake up people, the days of wanting an all Yorkshire side, or an all British side are over, it was over the day we joined the EU, it'll never happen, with or without Cellino untill we leave the EU and spend 2 or 3 seasons finding the right players that don't want a million quid a week.

    These Cellino haters can't see the forest for the trees.
     
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    From memory Antenucci didn't want to leave, he was in tears after his last match, to be honest, I don't blame him for feeling despondent after the way he's been treated by coaches.

    Antenucci is a much better striker than Wood, yet we lose Antenucci.
     
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  7. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    I always find myself disagreeing with everything you say entirely... No offence
     
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  8. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    From memory, didnt he try to take ball from Wood to take a penalty and then refuse to celebrate with rest of team. Maybe some of the lads who were there can confirm. Hardly the actions of either a team player or someone who wanted to be there at all if true
     
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  9. MIGHTY

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    i think he is as blind as a bat <laugh>
     
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  10. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    This is where in my opinion you let yourself down.. Antenucci was let down by Cellino, the lack of infrastructure, the quality of coaches, the new contract offers are all made by Cellino, turn a blind eye to it in an attempt to justify your love for the man but it ain't cutting it. Antenucci one of your favourite players is criticising Cellino.

    You are just as much blinded by your love of Cellino and your ignorance of ignoring his many faults as those you accuse of being Cellino haters.

    Who were Darko's and Hockadays favourites, who did they pick and in your opinion who did they leave out who should have been picked or is that not possible to answer..

    "Instead, what disappointed me was the corporate organisation of Leeds, which has been lacking in the past two years, along with the quality of the appointed coaches"
     
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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Eire, when Ant was on form he was great. Often surprised he was left on the bench. All our coaches can't be wrong, surely?????
     
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  12. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning LL, For me Bellusci makes too many errors and Cooper is just not strong enough. Nothing wrong with our full backs. We need to have a bloody good defensive midfielder to sit in front of two new central defenders.
     
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  13. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Cellino never offered Antenucci a new contract, Cellino obviously feels he wasn't good enough, we need better, this is one decision that you can't shy away from, one man was behind this decision and I agree with it so am I blinded by my dislike for Cellino.
     
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  14. Doc

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    Dont actually give a **** anymore and we can all talk about who will come in and which players to buy etc; BUT until the club infrastructure is resolved we will never get anywhere even if we had Messi. Shambolic is the word everyone uses and its correct
     
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  15. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Evening Josh
     
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    Morning gang. Now got a bit of paper that should finally get the club to see sense over where I can be seated next season. So a good day all round so far. All I need now is an email from the club confirming Jose's rejected the sc&m & is the new Leeds Manager, that Cellino has sold the club to a Russian Oligarch, & that we're heading for the PL
     
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  17. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Mighty
     
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  18. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Doc, when we lost Pearson upstairs, it was worse than losing Snodds, Howson and McCormack together.
     
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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Boggers, blimey, imagine Mourinho as our Manager!
     
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  20. MIGHTY

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    morning elland <cheers>
     
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