Liverpool charged by UEFA following crowd trouble at Europa League final By Nick Lustig Last Updated: 20/05/16 7:08pm please log in to view this image Liverpool and Sevilla have been charged by UEFA following incidents involving their fans during the Europa League final on Wednesday. Liverpool's charges are for crowd disturbances and the setting off of fireworks, while Sevilla's are for crowd disturbances and the throwing of objects. Their cases will be dealt with by UEFA's control, ethics and disciplinary body on July 21. http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ollowing-crowd-trouble-at-europa-league-final
So basically sevilla hand back tickets UEFA sell them to us. Totally fail to prepare for 2000 fans in seats next to 7k sevilla Sevilla fans throw stuff. We get charged. Great. Well done uefa. Absolutely abysmally inept crowd control.
Oh and fair enough charge for fire works. That's no issue imo. It does however show you failed to properly search on entry too.. Just to be clear.. no arrests, no complaints from police or Basel. Damned lucky the majority of sevilla fans must have been decent sods cos if this had been an Italian team or Eastern European... well ...
Uefa never learn from their previous **** up's, wrong venues chosen, ticket distribution wrong, segregation non existent because of "neutral" areas. The 39 lives lost at Heysel would not have happened if they hadn't decided to allocate a neutral area in the Liverpool end instead of having one on either side of the ground. Some Liverpool "fans" behaviour in away games and finals in europe since Heysel has been bang out of order and will ultimately get us a season ban sooner or later but lessons need to be learnt on both sides.
UEFA can make 1 million blatant nonsensical preventable mistakes but so long as a single Liverpool/other fan sets off a flare they'll just issue fines and continue to consider themselves faultless
I take it they have to charge teams for this kind of thing after every final then? EDIT..........This is a serious question not a wum, I genuinely have no idea and want to know.
Wouldn't know, but if you're insinuating that it's only Liverpool followers that get into **** in European games im guessing you're way of the mark. If you've got the evidence it is only LFC "fans" then fair enough.
Perhaps my edit wasn't quite clear, I have no idea and am insinuating nothing. I asked the question because you suggested it was an on going problem with Uefa and there ticket allocations, venues etc which made me think this was maybe a common thing at finals. I do like to have a pop at Liverpool as a club but you will struggle to find me singling out or blaming any teams supporters for anything outside of being deluded (which all supporters are as a pre-requisite to supporting a team).
There is always trouble when sides with big travelling support go to see games at smaller UEFA venues in the Europa League, yes. Rangers in Manchester, Chelsea in Amsterdam etc. Troubles off the pitch because the capacity of the stadium wasn't big enough to house all of the fans that wanted to travel. UEFA would rather blame the fans because A) They dislike British supporters anyway because they don't sit quietly on their hands for 90 mins & B) They will never accept the blame for poorly organising one of the biggest games in the football calendar. I admit it is a tough one because if the final was Villarreal Vs Sevilla or Villarreal Vs Shakhtar the stadium would've been more than sufficient, but because it was Liverpool it simply wasn't. Just imagine the chaos had it been a Dortmund/Man Utd/Liverpool final. The amount of people wanting to go to the game for either of those 2 clubs would've made the game a write off.
Thanks Lucaaas, how could I have forgotten the Rangers thing, Manchester was like a war zone the next morning
Sound, but speaking only on our club's(LFC)behalf I stand by what I said, for instance this season's CL final, both finalists will receive just 20,000 tickets each in a stadium with a 71k capacity, the two finalists are tribal enemies and some will no doubt end up in unsegregated areas of the ground, I ain't saying there will be any violence or disorder but Uefa are yet again leaving the door ajar for the possibility.
Ticket allocations have been shocking for years, even in domestic cups. I understand that sponsors will require tickets and some will be distributed among the league clubs etc but priority should always be to the competing teams.
Then tiny ticket allocations are compounded by the fact Hicks & Gillett offered first priority on tickets for big games & finals for 2,000 former shareholders until 2107 (I think). That means before you've begun 2k tickets are lost because of a legally binding contract by the previous owners that the club has to fulfil.
Only 6,000 of the remaining tickets are/were on sale on Uefa.com, so 25,000 tickets go to Uefa's elite and hangers on and the press, no wonder ticket touts make fortunes at Uefa finals.
That is a total farce, it shows they had no understanding of the game at any level. I hadn't heard of that until you made the final this year and somebody mentioned it on here, unbelievable.
I think we need to go back to the fact that uefa assume the neutralso are good crowd control. Basically if sevilla had not returned 2k of ticket allocation then they could have had their block then neutrals either side then our block. The clear issue here is they sold that 2k to lfc never moved anything about and made zero and I mean zero effort to segregate fans. It was only after trouble started with throwing of objects a thin single line of Swiss police was hastily assembled and placed in stand. And you know... that was enough which suggests to me it was fairly minor trouble and uefa were very very lucky. They could have done this with other teams like shaktar and I don't care if I am casting aspersions... it could have been disastrous. Better they burn the 2k tickets than this effort imo.
This. I'm not 'condoning' anyone fighting on any sides, but this is ludicrous. And it's not just English fans either - they wouldn't/shouldn't do this if it was a German team and a Dutch team, a Russian team and a Polish team, etc. I could only think, on a European level, that if it was, say, a Liverpool Celtic game (or a Liverpool Everton game, perhaps) where you'd let this happen. Just plain daft and criminally naive to think otherwise.
you'd assume they would not but i think it was sheer utter incompetence. my point is that they've have been better off burning the returned tickets than go do what they did with them. the minute sevilla handed back 2k tickets then a segregation plan should have been developed. Each block of team tickets had to be segregated properly but in fact they rely on neutrals to do it with faff all proper policing.
The issue wasn't really about handed back tickets though, it was scrapping in the neutral section, the tickets for which are largely allocated by ballot which you have to apply for before the QF stages are complete. These invariably then get moved on to touts, and you get mixed seating. Fantascruff was right in the thick of it haha
