According to The Times this morning, the following European citizens would no longer have automatic right to play for us. If we left the EU and wanted them to play for us we would have to appeal. This would affect Enrique Lovren Sakho Moreno Mingolet Can Ilori Bogdan Teixera Could lead to problems..
Enrique gone Lovren Croatian international no issue Sakho French international no issue. Moreno who cares Mingolet Belgian gk no issue even if he's a bench warmer Can German u21 = handy on appeal Ilori gone Bogdan gone Teixera gone. Total non entity of a story this.
That's it... Vote no for the brexit so we can keep Can. If Germay exited the EU would it be called the Deutschit?
Players will be ok if we leave....BUT If you care about the future of your family then there is only one option and that is to remain in.......To leave the EU now will be the biggest mistake we will ever do. Boris and grove and IDS have admitted that jobs will be lost and prices of absolutely will rise including mortgages and interest rates will go through the roof. The £ is already losing its value in anticipating of leaving the EU. Just look around where you live and count how many businesses are being topped up and funded by the EU and if that stops millions of workers will be directly and indirectly effected......Now the top international monetary fund has just announced that The UK face very serious consequences if we leave as they the IMF who gauge all trade all over the world has indicated that the UK has already had millions of pounds of trade put on hold by other countries.....I voted not to join the common market all those years ago be cause we were a thriving country where we had many industries employing millions of people i thought it would be a bad move but we joined.....So for 40 odd years we have been in it the Tories destroyed or privatized anything and everything that we are not and never will be self sufficient again as it's all gone.......We benefit by being in the EU now and for every pound we put in we get £10 worth of trade through the free market and if that stops then it will cost us just as much money to do trade with anyone as it wont be free anymore......Boris and the rest have said that coming out do benefit the rich over the rest but they say its a price worth paying.....WHAT! Yes for you multi millionaires maybe... Taxes will have to rise as there will be less people working and those who are lucky enough to work will lose all their workers rights that the EU makes sure we get. So if you don't quite understand what coming out of the EU really means and how it will effect you and your families future then for gods sake find out and don't be conned by Boris (he who will do anything to be prime minister) and IDS who not long ago said a family with 2 children should be able to live on £50 / week........Are you really going to listen to these idiots who want out for their own interests at the cost of you and me......Vote to stay in and be safe and know where you are....
I made my mind up when that fat, faux-Bunterish, fake-jolly turd bucket 'Boris' Johnson threw his cap in the Brexit camp. Vile, opportunistic chancer, even by Tory party standards. As for all this 'Project Fear' nonsense put about by the Mail/Express/Telegraph Axis in trying to demean the effects of warnings about the Brexit consequences, you can't help but notice that same papers and right-wingers were all for this approach during the Scottish Independence vote and the general Election when Crosbie was barking out Murdoch's orders. And their whole campaign is based upon the fear of 8 billion foreigners, probably with different languages and skin complexions, coming here the moment Turkey becomes part of the EU. That said, from what I hear from people in work, all people are concerned about is 'bloody foreigners and immigrants' anyway, so I expect, sadly. it will end up Brexit anyway.
Mweh...we are fecked either way...The EU is going to collapse at some point....no matter what control freaks Germany do to try to sustain it. It's evolution has been deeply flawed and the single currency has ensured it's doom in its present form...The Southern states will break at some point. We will feel the same economic effects in or out of it. As for the campaigns both have been an utter disgrace. Treating us all like children with scary stories. Pretty much sums up the quality of all our current politicians
There's a difference between the Euro potentially collapsing and us being part of the EU though. Fortunately we're nothing more than a spectator in the Euro debacle, that anyone with an ounce of savvy could see coming a mile off, and being part of what we joined i.e. a European trade partnership. Exiting would bring with it a level of economic risk that isn't out weighed by any tangible gain from a purely fiscal view point. The out campaign is driven by xenophobia and a little Englander mentality that is borderline racist in it's undertone.
Funnily enough we got invited to a dinner in York with that chump the other day lol. We politely declined. I'll dig out the date if you want to go and let him know what you think of him mate I'm hoping that the sensible majority will out weigh the vocal minority when it comes to this vote. My concern is that people will vote without truly understanding the potential economic consequences of us leaving the EU, and instead merely focus on keeping out Johnny Foreigner. There should be a knowledge test before the voting cards are handed out.............. I think it'll be close, and my fingers are firmly crossed that it falls the right way.
My view is that better in than out and really someone needs to grab hold of the federalists and knock them down and make this a looser grouping of trading partners... its gone way to far towards some socialist dreamland concept and has got close to implosion. I agree that we are already seeing money vote with its feet and this vote looks like it could tip us towards recession territory just by the concerns.
Hmmm..I think if still in, the Euro going tits up will have more impact on us than you suggest but as I say it's still going to effect us if we're out and the European economies go tits up again. The anti Europe part of the Tories has always been Little Englander as with Ukip. I do think their success as such has been due to the fact that the rest were in complete denial that immigration had any effect whatsoever on communities in regards to economics, health and education stresses. It was also a mistake for them to accuse anyone raising these concerns as in with the racists. An interesting one for me is how increasingly uncomfortable the left must be getting as it becomes more and more evident Cameron is on the corporations leash. Corbyn was naturally anti EU for this very reason and while he took the general Labour position it must grate that he is seen as siding with big bad multinationals wanting to use the EU regulation to keep their position dominant.
My point exactly though...neither camp has bothered their arse educating the people, just come out with increasingly ridiculous statements and claims... Many People either won't bother to vote because they don't understand or will vote emotionally based on which of the bastards they hate more.. It has been very difficult to find independent analysis of the arguments and even when it comes one side or the other misuses that info in such a biased way as to cast it in doubt...
yes a huge difference. This is about market access and also european HQs for business in london. The euro will collapse at some point. the day they set it up with italy and greece in it was inevitable. However leaving EU means ending common borders (which we were not in anywhere near the same extent as others) and ending free trade The ,markets free trade opens up free of duty and tariffs are huge. Lets not forget the amount of guys living in spain and all that that are then.. hmm legally in difficulty. I agree. There is no reason to leave. the REAL agenda is to stop free movement of people.
the euro is irrelevant to me as if it goes tits up EXACTLY the same consequences are coming. if its bigger than we think it will happen just the same. in or out the collapse of the european markets will have a huge impact on uk. the most vital point is the tax on wine the french communists (they all are at heart i think) will make it hugely expensive. corbyn is a tool who's destroying the labour party and the FOOLS who voted for him not burnham deserve what they get.
my view: 1. 3mil ukip voters in last election.. they are a lock for exit. wil lthey all turn up? 2. scots.. SNP lock out up there. What do they want really.. they are on the in camp. thats big enough 3. Unionist in NI. exit. 4. labour. weak kneed stay. 5. tories split.. somehow.. don't know who split This would suggest to me this will be a right down the middle vote. the labour party have a lot to answer for in my view for ****ing up the last election to allow this and now to be so limp wristed in fighting a case.
