always liked Danny Welbeck so I was sorry to hear he's going to miss the euros but all is not lost Hodgson need look no further than Defoe
I've read Jesse Lingard will replace him. It should be Lingard or Rashford, if we're looking to the future. **** it, take Lingard and Rashford and leave Rooney at home.
You take your best players, we have been looking at the future since 66. For once I wish the England manager would just take the best players in the best form, we might win something then. Kane Vardy Defoe that's 64 premier league goals between them. Defoe has scored more goals per game than Mahrez, Costa, Giroud, Sanchez, Ighalo and everyone is raving about them, and he has scored those goals in what is a very average team. I would take: Kane, Vardy, Defoe and Sturidge. Rooney will be in midfield anyway.
don't want any of our players going to Euros. even tho they get paid ridiculous money for it they deserve a break after the graft of the last few months.
If it was down to form, Defoe would have to go, but it's not just about that. Hodgson can do the right thing, lead by example and develop this team instead of being a sucker to the ****ers who just don't care enough about the national team (oh how I wish he'd leave Sterling at home). Roy Hodgson has resisted calling up Rashford for the Euros and rightly so, but I'd be very surprised if he's not invited to train with the squad for the friendlies pre-tournament, just to get him used to being in and around the squad. Players like Rashford are the future, not Defoe... sorry but that lad as much as you lot love him, he lost all credibility when he ****ed off to play for Toronto when he could have walked into many PL teams, he didn't take football seriously then so why should he be taken seriously when it suits him?
So the fact that he seemed to have realised his mistake, resulting in him deciding to come back to the Premier League, and playing as if he'd never been away, doesn't count, eh That's apart from the fact that he's, statistically, the most potent of all English strikers on current form (parrentlies), in a mediocre team (not a team like 'Spurs or 'United that creates more chances) . . . . you've got me beat, Tel.
Although it would be good for Defoe to go I just hope for the sake of our club he just goes away and has a nice holiday and comes back raring to go again.
It's not really a hard concept to grasp mate, a couple of years ago we had relatively few options as a striker and he ****ed off to play in the MLS for money. Now we have an abundance of strikers, I couldn't give a **** how well he's playing, mainly because he's well over 30 years old and has nothing to offer that the current lads can't offer, nor does he have anything to offer long term.
We're not taking players with 'potential' though, the only person that would apply to would be Rashford and he's probably not going anyhow. Roy's not picking potential over form. Defoe isn't top of the form table, the lads who are going to play as strikers are all ahead of him. Welbeck was never going to play as the number 9, he'll have been 2nd fiddle to Sterling left of the front three, knowing Roy Hodgson with Vardy on the bench, cos he's a ****ing idiot (Hodgson not Vardy). No point replacing Welbs with a number 9.
I actually hope Defoe does not go with my Sunderland hat on because I want him fit for next season. BUT as I said earlier you take your best 11, I would leave Sterling at home, he went to City for the money and has been ****e. England will never change Kevin Phillips scored 30 goals in a premier league season in an average team and he did not even get a fair chance in friendlies never mind a tournament. We over think it with England, take the form players, play a system that suits them and let them go out and express themselves. It almost worked in 1990.
Phillips didn't get a chance apparently because he didn't play cards and Shearer didn't like him. As rumours go, they're as good as any others. England's my second team, I never miss watching a match. But I don't want JD anywhere near that squad unless Sam announces 2 big striker signings in the next week! And that ain't going to happen. We've got some great young kids coming through. Let's get them out there in the Euro's. And let's keep putting them out there every bloody game until they can read each other's moves and can second guess every twitch and pass. Just like the Germans did a decade ago. Just before they won the World Cup.
Surely after just witnessing Leics wn the league title, chemistry has to count for something? We can't just chuck a load of form players together, but even if we did, Defoe doesn't start because Vardy and Kane are both in better form. I don't see a legitimate argument for Defoe unless Rooney was being taken as the number 9.
Similar debates took place in 1966 when the general opinion was that Jimmy Greaves had more to offer then Geoff Hurst. Alf Ramsey stuck to overall team dynamic and stuck with Hurst. It's all about blend rather than form and Roy ain't done bad so far.
Well we can judge that after the tournament, going off his World Cup performance he's probably one of the worst ever. I will be more than happy to eat humble pie here but I don't trust him one bit with all of our new blood. He'll earn my respect if he drops Sterling from the squad.
I can go further with that in leaving both Sterling and Sturridge back home. Neither have shown that they easily fit into the team ethic. I said at the time of the last WC that he was wise enough to know he was on a loser with an ageing team so blooded some of the youngsters then. Two years on we will know the result of his planning.
You realise that's essentially what it will be if he does go? I'd expect him to get maybe 20 minutes at the end of one group stage game, we'll get knocked out in the first elimination round, and he'll be back home fit as a fiddle I don't really care either way if he goes or not. I can see the arguments both for and against. If he does get overlooked I won't start screaming that it's some sort of anti-Sunderland conspiracy. Vardy is basically the same player but younger and better. Ditto Sturridge although I'd probably rate him about on a level with Jermain. Rooney and Kane offer something different. On the other hand, Defoe is in great form and brings experience which none of the others (barring Rooney) really have at international level. Swings and roundabouts.
