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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, May 11, 2016.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Good Morning Everyone,

    As reported last night by the 'great' Glory 200+ bottles were thrown at the scum bus!

    Personally, I find this behaviour unacceptable.



    It could have easily have caused serious injury or even death!

    Forget it was only scum it happened to, surely the perpetrators need to punished.

    Agree?




    The Football League will discuss Cellino’s acquittal in the Range Rover case and the implications for his 223-day suspension at a meeting of its board tomorrow but it is likely that it will reverse that ban

    The only remaining threat to Cellino’s ownership is the IS Arenas trial.

    This case is currently active in Italy. On Monday, two of the other accused were jailed for two years and six months respectively after a round of plea bargaining. Another, a surveyor called Giorgio Caria, was acquitted.

    Cellino, who spent a short time in prison after his arrest in Cagliari in 2013, denies any wrongdoing.




    Although Shez is still odds on favourite to take the hot seat at Elland Road, Evans odds have been slashed.

    Thoughts?

    Leeds United Manager First League Game 2016/17 Season
    Next Permanent Manager Caretaker and interim managers completing at least 10 competitive games will be deemed the permanent manager
    John Sheridan 1/6 Steve Evans 6/1 Dougie Freedman 12/1 Fabio Cannavaro 12/1
    Walter Zenga 12/1 Christian Brocchi 18/1 Tim Sherwood 18/1 Mick McCarthy 20/1
    David Moyes 20/1 Nigel Pearson 20/1 Simon Grayson 20/1 Steve Bruce 25/1
    Paul Clement 25/1 Steve McClaren 25/1 Sinisa Mihajlovic 33/1 Chris Coleman 33/1
    Roberto Di Matteo 33/1 Michael Appleton 33/1 Alan Smith 40/1 Dennis Wise 40/1
    Roberto Mancini 40/1 Brendan Rodgers 40/1 David O'Leary 40/1 Walter Mazzarri 40/1
     
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  2. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Morning Elland and all. The whole Upton Park thing last night was way ott
     
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  3. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Eire,

    Bloody animals.

    Can't help but think if they were Leeds fans, we would probably be expelled from the league.
     
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  4. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

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    Feck them....the players weren't in any danger going by some of the clips of them inside the coach. Any innocent causalities is a different matter. Although unless you have a selective memory the red army have over the years been just as naughty...but that's just my opinion..<ok>
     
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  5. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    If scum choose to arrive at away only an hour before kick off their bus is bound to get held up by crowd congestion (as it did against Tottenham).
    Like it or not the same situation would have happened no matter whose bus it was trapped outside the majority of grounds....

    Interestingly the Villareal coach was left windowless when it arrived outside Anfield in similar circumstances last month, but because it was Victimpool no one word made the press.
    Millwall are much more considerate, when they last played us their coach driver put the windows through without help by crashing into the west stand.
     
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  6. Doc

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    Morning all, my issue last night was the dildo maker refused to believe fans were doing anything wrong, said the bus would have no marks on it, said Man U should have got here earlier and was upset the match had to be delayed because of man U. Turns out the team bus was way ahead of time, Gold/Sullivan are coonts and it was like where Rooney was brought up in Kirby outside the ground.

    3 matches behind closed doors, but bet fook all happens and CCTFV wont be working either
     
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  7. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Shaks, the flying glass could have maned or blinded people inside the coach or any members of the public in the vicinity. Morning by the way pal
     
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  8. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Does this happen frequently at matches?

    Surely they are no better than galatasaray..
     
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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning doc, West Ham have landed on their feet with their new ground. Not only that but the contract they signed means that the tax payers pay for all the stewarding at the games...
     
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  10. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Am I trhe only one to think that 6/1 are great odds for Evans keeping his job?
     
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  11. Mr Wolves-White

    Mr Wolves-White Well-Known Member

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    Morning All

    Elland....No club's fan are like them of that Turkish club,

    No you shouldn't be throwing at other team buses but I wouldn't be surprised if they are some form of plastic to stop serious injuries.

    Evans at 6/1 still isn't worth the money, if Evans was to stay at the club he would have by now.
     
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  12. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    <peacedove><peacedove><peacedove>R.I.P<peacedove><peacedove><peacedove>

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  13. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Wolves, perhaps, but behaviour that should have been stamped out in the 80's
     
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    #Brexit are taking the blame for this according to Cameron
     
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    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Leeds United protest group Time To Go Massimo (TTGM) are a fan-funded collective and protagonists of quite spectacular stunts aimed at showing the folly of Massimo Cellino’s ownership of Leeds United.

    From projected images of Cellino’s broken promises onto the East Stand awnings, through a mock funeral parade and symbolic death of a club to a ‘Many Man’ march from Leeds City centre to Elland Road; TTGM have done it all.
    With people in some quarters asking that they be more transparent in their dealings and money flow, TTGM released, or ‘made live’ the accounts section of their website that gives a breakdown of the cash flow in and also costs out of the group.

    Following on over the next two pages is a brief run-down of TTGM ins-and-outs.

    ‘Ins’ – the revenue streams.


    February 2016
    • PayPal: 299 donations – £5,101.17 (average donate £17.06)
    • Time To Go Massimo website: 30 donations – £442.17 (average donate £14.74)
    • BACS transfer: 5 donations – £1,040 (average donate £208)
    February Total: 334 donations – £6,583.34



    March 2016
    • PayPal: 61 donations – £814.48 (average donate £13.35)
    • Time To Go Massimo website: 69 donations – £1083.08 (average donate £15.70)
    • BACS transfer: 4 donations – £82 (average donate £20.50)
    March Total: 134 donations – £1,979.56 (donators -59.88% from February; donations -69.93% from February)



    April 2016

    • PayPal: 39 donations – £600.92 (average donate £15.41)
    • Time To Go Massimo website: 28 donations – £364.90 (average donate £13.03)
    • BACS transfer: 0 donations – £0
    March Total: 103 donations – £965.92 (donators -23.13% from March; donations -69.93% from March).

    334 donations (February) to 103 donations (April) is a drop of 69.16%; £6583.34 donated (February) to £965.92 (April) is a drop of 85.33%.

    Total revenue collected: £10,425.74 from 535 donatations and 64 merchandise sales




    ‘Outs’ – the costs

    February

    • East Stand projection – where images of Massimo Cellino were beamed onto the awnings of Elland Road’s East Stand – £2,600
    March

    • Coffin for the symbolic funeral parade – £255
    • Plane flyover with trailing banner – £395
    • Van advertisement #1 – £700
    • Van advertisement #2 – £500
    • Giant screen hire – £1,947.60
    • 80 T-shirts @£7.20 each – £576
    • 2 banners – £96
    • Bus stop advertisement – £969.60
    April

    • 100 scarves – £480
    • 40 t-shirts @£7.20 each – £288
    • 2 banners – £96
    • Protest march advertisement in YEP – £568.86
    • Payment gateway costs – £34.33
    Total costs: £9,472.06

    Total left in bank (including value of stock): £919.33



    Time To Go, Massimo – will protests rise or fall?

    With a three month spread of contributors and contributions showing marked fall-offs – contributions to TTGM’s fighting fund falling by 85% and contributors dropping off by 69%, are those the bells of a death knell ringing in the distance. In other words, are the falling contributions and contributors a sign of a disaffected donator base.

    As Cellino becomes more and more entrenched in his ownership of Leeds United, as the long-awaited ‘Rule K’ decision seems to drift further away, is the TTGM protest surge suffering from fan apathy – the fringe contributors dropping away and leaving only a hardcore element as the chief donators?

    If this is the case, how long can the protest hope to remain viable without either fresh contributor input or further outrage from Massimo Cellino – which to be honest is bound to happen.

    The challenge for TTGM will be to keep the protest in the public eye and psyche over the summer months – in doing so keep it fresh. Any stagnation could be deadly for the fan protest group, especially if they have to kickstart it afresh again come the start of the season.

    Added to all of this, if there is significant investment and fans feel a surge of optimism, could this resurgence of spirit also damage the prospects of continuing what have been innovative protests against Massimo Cellino?

    Time will tell on all, that time isn’t now though.
     
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  17. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Double lined windows the inside glass is that unbreakable safety glass, all that broke was the thin outer privacy glass.
     
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    Morning all. Much to everyone's dismay, it appears the club have pharked up Wootten's extension which leave's him free to leave this summer. Heyho!!!
     
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  19. bucks_is_leeds

    bucks_is_leeds Jonny big spuds Forum Moderator

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    I thought it was amusing <laugh>

    Morning all <ok>
     
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  20. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Boggers, accidently.....................on purpose!!!

    Yes, not sure Wootton knows yet though!

    Hope it does not turn into another Cameron Stewart!
     
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