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Off Topic Impact of Brexit on Football

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  1. NORKIE

    NORKIE Well-Known Member

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    Weighty bor, got the message, use the back door and not the trap door LOL.

    One good thing about being relegated, we get to meet once again. Looking forward to it, just keep those six points handy for us to pick up LOL
     
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  2. General Melchett

    General Melchett Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering and this goes back to the original title, but were we to leave, could the league/FA impose a cap on foreign players free from Brussels interference? I know that the PL would have no interest in doing so and would likely ignore attempts to regulate it. But could or should it be done?

    Bah!
     
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  3. General Melchett

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    Oh and also looking forward to the binners donation of 6pts to the Norwich City promotional effort!

    Bah!
     
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  4. NORKIE

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    General bor, we have players in our leagues at the moment who are not EU subjects so in effect it should not contravene FA rules. The FA are subject to the laws of the land and it would depend on what our government decides. Clubs apply for permission for foreign players to sign for them subject to approval by the relevant ministry. Personally I don't see any need to change the procedure. If the player is an asset to the standard of football our country wants to be noted for then why change something that is to the good of the country.

    There will be those who say bringing in foreign players is detrimental to British talent but as has been proven, British players have made the grade and by competing against the world's best they are improving their talents.
     
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  5. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

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    I wasn't aware that your relegation battle was over yet.......
     
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    Good point. Everton's inevitable 4-0 defeat by Sunderland remains 30 hours away
     
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  7. JKCanary

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    In order for us to have a chance of staying up, we have to score at least one goal.

    We don't do that any more.
     
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  8. NORKIE

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    Weighty bor, no officially it aint, but to win a game you need to score a goal, we haven't scored in our past four, that is over 360 minutes. Before the Palace game we were sitting prettily on the top of the mountain, now we have dropped off the top and need a miracle to survive. unfortunately JC is unavailable. Add to that the upheaval of the loss of our CEO who chose to resign has added to our woes.

    So you see the confidence we have in our survival, as expressed by other contributors.
     
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    I wish JC wasn't available bur I fear he will head our attack! <laugh>
     
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  10. NORKIE

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    Nice try Dave but his initials are CJ. Still better scorer than another Cameron I know of LOL.
     
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    Now now, don't be NORKIE <laugh>
     
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  12. NORKIE

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    I wouldn't be Norkie if you paid me !!!

    Thread game is waiting for input as No 5 said
     
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  13. General Melchett

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    On the EU debate, I'm not sure what to make of this . On the one hand, it appears that local governments are still able to make their own decisions and policies free of medling from EU control. On the other hand, if this isn't an instance where the EU perhaps should be stepping in to ensure workers rights, then what is?
    For me it highlights that I really don't know what they do to justify their unelected, overpaid phoney baloney positions.

    Bah!
     
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  14. NORKIE

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    General bor, followed up your connection and found this.
    From BBC Europe/france. (part input, the full article makes interesting reading}

    "Robert Hancke of the London School of Economics blames the loss of economic policy control as a result of membership of the eurozone.

    "French growth and unemployment do not, did not, and never have depended on a more flexible labour market.

    "The problem with France is simple: it is in a monetary union with Germany, a much stronger, better-organised, economy and therefore pays a high cost in no longer being able to control the main levers of economic adjustment, from interest rates via exchange rates to fiscal policy."

    There is unrest in France over the government's imposed new labour laws with demonstrations around the country. The London School of Economics has been a strong supporter of us remaining in Europe yet here we have one of their financial correspondents blaming the Eurozone as a cause of their predicament; unable to control their financial interest rates and fiscal policy.

    Seems like everything in Europe isn't the bed of roses we are led to believe by the IN crowd.
     
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    But don't the French...........sorry EU citizens know that they are one big happy EU family and the Germans are just a bit more equal than them. The Euro and the EU cannot work unless everyone gives up all notion of sovereignty, all jobs, industry and wealth is redistributed between all the former sovereign states so no one thinks someone else is reaping more benefits. And to an extent that is what they are doing. Germany, Britain and France are all having there quality of life eroded to fund nations that would take at least a couple of generations to catch up if they actually had the will to, but never will because they like the rest of us have cultures of there own that they value!

    Bah!
     
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    General bor, you have hit the nail fairly on the head. Only by all countries fully integrating will the EU work. That will never happen. First what language. One language for the whole of Europe. What language would that be ? Only last week a French minister criticised a French acting company for using English in one of its plays and he further criticised the use of English in France's Eurovision entry.

    As part of an integrated Europe the EU introduced the euro and what a disaster that has been. Those countries like us who didn't participate are counting their blessings. We had to help Ireland who joined the euro with financial assistance during that crisis.

    Just been announced on tv, the EU has blocked a merger in this country between O2 and 3. Just an example of who really decides issues in this country.
     
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  17. JKCanary

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    And why? Oh yes, to protect customers against price increases and monopolisation.

    The EU has a frankly excellent track record of protecting consumer rights.
     
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  18. JKCanary

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    Oh, and as for LSE, this is what their Centre for Economic Performance (a politically independent Research Centre) had to say in their new report on the subject of Brexit and the impact of immigration on the UK:


    Brexit and the impact of immigration on the UK

     Between 1995 and 2015, the number of immigrants from other European Union (EU) countries living in the UK tripled from 0.9 million to 3.3 million. In 2015, EU net immigration to the UK was 172,000, only just below the figure of 191,000 for non-EU immigrants.

     The big increase in EU immigration occurred after the ‘A8’ East European countries joined in 2004. In 2015 29% of EU immigrants were Polish.

     EU immigrants are more educated, younger, more likely to be in work and less likely to claim benefits than the UK-born. About 44% have some form of higher education compared with only 23% of the UK-born. About a third of EU immigrants live in London, compared with only 11% of the UK-born.

     Many people are concerned that immigration reduces the pay and job chances of the UKborn due to more competition for jobs. But immigrants consume goods and services and this increased demand helps to create more employment opportunities. Immigrants also might have skills that complement UK-born workers. So we need empirical evidence to settle the issue of whether the economic impact of immigration is negative or positive for the UK-born.

     New evidence in this Report shows that the areas of the UK with large increases in EU immigration did not suffer greater falls in the jobs and pay of UK-born workers. The big falls in wages after 2008 are due to the global financial crisis and a weak economic recovery, not to immigration.

     There is also little effect of EU immigration on inequality through reducing the pay and jobs of less skilled UK workers. Changes in wages and joblessness for less educated UKborn workers show little correlation with changes in EU immigration.

     EU immigrants pay more in taxes than they take out in welfare and the use of public services. They therefore help reduce the budget deficit. Immigrants do not have a negative effect on local services such as crime, education, health, or social housing

     European countries with access to the Single Market must allow free movement of EU citizens whether in the EU (like the UK) or outside it (like Norway and Switzerland).

     The refugee crisis has nothing to do with EU membership. Refugees admitted to Germany have no right to live in the UK. The UK is not in the Schengen passport-free travel agreement so there are border checks on migrants.
     
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  19. KIO

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    You're wasting your breath on me JK, I want out and I shall vote out simply because I want my country to govern itself and have more control over it's borders. I don't care if I'm going to be worse off financially short term either, I don't give a ****, I'm prepared to pay to get out of the EU don't you see?

    Basically whatever bullshit you come up with about our European 'Partners' (sic), does nothing to change my view and I'm bloody sure whatever I post will not sway your decision either <ok>

    #voteleave #brexit
     
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  20. JKCanary

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    How characteristically diplomatic of you, KIO! ;)
     
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