If we were still in it I would wish you were playing any team other than Everton (apart from maybe Villa - who we couldn't even beat home or away). They have zero confidence and will crumble against a team determined and hungry to win. As it is, the damage is already done and it really makes no difference to us now. We won't beat Spurs.
If johnsons little contribution has helped us stay up, then I'm thankful for that. His track record off the field had nothing to do with what he done on the field. And you talk about your history as though it's great, your trophy cabinet must have some things in then?
We are down. To be honest, I would take us having a season in the Championship, winning games and going to new grounds any day [if that were to happen of course.] Would much rather look forward to going to games again than spend yet another season wondering if we are going to survive. We may come straight back up; we may not. I see a lot of SAFC fans getting the digs in. Well, if we have a successful season in the Championship, you can guarantee that the media coverage will once again be focused on us rather than down the road as it always is in any event [unless it concerns certain ex players and their off field antics.]
Nothing for us fans to be embarrised about, we couldn't stop him playing, because we didn't know anything about the case.
When's the last time you won anything? Shola Ameobi has more goals in europe than your club has appearences! Because of the timing its going to sound like sour grapes, but the prem next year will have teams like Leicester (league 1 in last 5 years) Swansea Watford Palace Stoke Bournemouth Burnley Boro Sunderland WBA Brighton? Not exactly great is it, Sky have paid £billions to show these teams play each other. Yeah the majority of these finished above us, but bigger picture its a joke, Small clubs like sunderland, boro, wba that cant fill a stadium, that no real ambition and looking at finishing 10th as a success! Relegations painful and yeah, I would love to stay in the PL, but I can also see how rotten football is becoming, chucking millions at clubs to watch sub-standard football (when compared to some other leagues), watching the likes of Pulis and Big Sam play old skool football. Sky then handing down the fees to the millions of fans, all a bit of a joke
i am not saying anything until we know we are safe, nothing worse than spouting on and taking the proverbial and it comes back to bite you on the ass. When and if we are safe i will have sympathy for you lot as we all know what it is like to go down but on the flip side i am sure you will bounce back. i sure would rather be playing you lot than them smog eaters from down the A19.
To be honest, AJ is not a stick I would want to beat you with when it comes to relegation. For a start he isn't worth the effort, and secondly if we had been anywhere near good enough it wouldn't have mattered how many points you had. We are in the bottom three because we deserve to be. If some within the club did wrong over this episode then that is their affair and not the fans. I can't say with hand on heart that I would be 100% confident of Charnley, Ashley and co doing the right thing if roles were reversed.
Those clubs are all there because they deserve to be. We won't be because we don't deserve to be. Some of the clubs you mention are clubs with great history. The league didn't get any worse when it lost the likes of Derby, Notts Forest, or Leeds - or going further back teams like Huddersfield or Preston North End. It won't be any worse this time around either.
I do get embarrassed for my club when it is seen in a bad light whether it is on or off the pitch or whether its due to the fans or due to boardroom antics. I was embarrassed that the club continued to let him play despite at least one of our people sitting on strong evidence that he was guilty, or at the very least a ****wit! And whether we stop up at the end of the season or still get relegated I'm just pleased the ****er has gone.
Samantha just wanted to say this bit "Small clubs like sunderland" . . . . obviously with a gob full of grapes, that aren't quite right We're not even safe yet, so we've still got plenty to worry about
So if given the opportunity right now, would you take 10th in the PL for the 16/17 season? as a sweetner, I'll also chuck in 5 games where your stadium is sold out and the ground is absolutely rocking!!
Your claiming to have the big history, I'm not. You criticise big sam, yet Benitez got booted out of Real Madrid, with all the best players in the world, for playing boring football. And yes, ill take playing the likes of stoke and palace in the prem. Enjoy burton Albion and possibly wallsall won't you
I don't care what Johnson got up to, I won't pretend otherwise. If the full details were published in the first place, he wouldn't have played, simple as.
I don't really care if we go down. It seems a bit of a shame this time around as with the Rafa appointment and the attempts in January, at least the club tried. All far too little, far too late, but change was the key word we needed and it's going to be harder to see through the changes in the next league down. However I'm hopeful that there'll be change all over the place, as we'll need far better youth and U-21 performances to ever get anywhere. There's also something about dropping a division that might, initially, take the pressure off. As I said elsewhere, Sunderland are - just as they do most years - doing enough to stave off relegation yet again. But that's all they're doing. So when all the headlines bang around about the money in the PL, you just have to look at Sunderland, Stoke, Everton, Palace, Villa, Norwich, us, Man U, etc., to ask "what's the point"? Where does that money get you? Nowhere. Leicester have done something amazing, but the PL money had nothing to do with it. Vardy could have gone anywhere, as could Mahrez, Fuchs and Kante. They have taken all the luck, fair play, worked hard and as Ranieri says it usually happens every 20 years (Blackburn, then back to Nottm Forest). This year it was them, could have been West Ham, could have been Spurs (everyone seems to overlook the fact Spurs have won no league for, what, 30 years or so?!). What's more concerning is where are Blackburn and Forest now!! I'd lament dropping out of the division if there was any chance we could challenge for anything, or even just play decent football, but we can't with this owner and this MD. So for me the next few days won't mean much - I'll be wanting an Everton win, of course, and would just about prefer to stay up, but I'm pretty numb to the prospect of the drop. I can see as much benefit to dropping as I can to staying up!! For the record, I have a feeling Everton will get something and I still have this weird feeling (not hope, I hasten to add) that NUFC will survive on the final day. Or maybe it's a feeling that Norwich will put us both down. Or maybe it's just wind.