Come on don't be cagey "will the over riding love and passion for your club get to you enough to take you to Wembley if it happens" will you be one of the number filling the mini van ? -
I really really really don't expect Argyle to get to Wembley so to be honest it's not a thing I've thought about too much. But, hypothetically speaking, if backed into a corner, with thumb screws on and a touch of water torture thrown in..........yep probably. That's the bledddy trouble with football teams isn't it. You say you aren't going to do this or that and then can't resist in the end. Just looking at the title of this thread there is apparently an argument going on about what this game should be called. Is it battle of the dockyards or is it battle of the ports. Being an old timer and an ex naval person it was always battle of the ports historically. Reason being the number of matelots who were from two ports but found themselves in the opposite one on a matchday with nothing to do in the afternoon. It was a good excuse after several tots and glasses of strong beverage on coming ashore to kick the crap out of the opposing supporters. It was mainly matelots kicking matelots in those days. Half the newbies in Plymouth think it should be called battle of the dockyards because that's the only title they have heard. It's the reason the thread author would get it wrong as well. These days I don't think there is any battle of anything if honest. Can't remember any particular annimosity between the clubs over the years only the naval side of it. What do you reckon chaps?
Liking the chance to disagree with you on someone else's board sensible! Appreciate I only served the RN for 35 years but for me it has always been the 'dockyard derby'. I think it was/is because in the days we had 4 'Royal' dockyards Pompey was the closest to Guzz. Not sure it matters much. Argyle V Pompey is always my favorite match, love the away days at Fratton and respect to the Pompey fans for always getting behind their team ( albeit the are a bit misguided)-unlike the habitual moaners at home park.. Lets hope for two cracking matches -no idea which way it will go , I guess it depends who bottles it most! Pity we cant both be promoted, but I expect one of us will.
But you aren't really old enough to know the real history of it lyndhurst. It matters not how many years you served. By the time you joined the battle of the ports had ended. It stems from the days when sailors had a port in England that is as a prefix to their service number which actually meant something. Mine was D for Devonport or course as I came from here anyway. It mattered a great deal when the field gun was run. Back in the fifties and early sixties matelots were badly paid and didn't get every afternoon off to pop home. It meant a lot of them were left onboard with little to do. You wouldn't remember the tot. It was a good pre going ashore drink to stoke the fire. Football was cheap and about the only thing to do on a Saturday afternoon so along with 30000 plus others they trotted along to the local ground. Having had a few and with the rivalry regarding home ports abounding they proceeded to kick the crap out of the opposition ports support. Believe me football violence was not an invention of the 70's. I think the ending was also due to us not being in the same league for quite a bit of the time as well. You should have gone into Union Street on a weekend night. The various ships in port would kick off quite often against each other. They joined forces to have a go at the bootnecks who in turn joined the matelots to have a pop at the Army. It was quite an education. Royal Dockyards never ever entered the equation.
Mmmm, mine started with D as well-absolutely nothing to do with which Dockyard your ship was in. I don't dispute the rest of your reminiscing and as i said, I don't really care (for once)- may the best(or least worst) team win. Running away back to my own forum now before the PFKs get irate.
I said home port lyndhurst not which ship you were on. You picked a home port when you joined. There was originally even a prefix for Chatham. People drafted to a ship whose home port was Portsmouth often found themselves in opposing ports. The old days most married matelots lived in quarters and those quarters were in the home port so they would have to travel at weekends which being poorly paid they couldn't always afford. Only 3 travel warrants a year not 12. When I say poorly paid my fiirst annual salary was £130. An able sailor over 18 got around £420 per year. The natives are quite friendly on here as long as you are polite. To see two outsiders argue on their forum is probably raising at least a small smirk. Or it will do when any of them are awake.
Go for it lads all night if you want when you are at it late Friday night its 10am Saturday here I've got all day Woopert and Lappers have also been known to burn the midnight oil so as a guest myself on here feel free - is this debate going to be a points decision or a knockout
I bow to your superior knowledge Sensible. By 1980 when I joined the option to 'pick a Port' was no longer available and essentially matelots are just assigned (not drafted) to the ship that needs them most. Most people still express a preference on where they would like to be be based but that preference is only one of a number of criteria that are considered before the Career Manager decides where to send you. (ps Service numbers no longer have any prefix at all so it is also impossible to work out what gender someone is let alone what football team they support just by looking at their SN)
From what I've seen in plymouth of late it's impossible to pick out the gender of most of them anyway.........(boom boom).
Yep. My dad was a Plymouth marine. His service number started with PLY. His dad was a Pompey sailor who followed both Saints and Pompey(depending on who was at home).
Well Pompey prepared for the play-off in style in front of 18,000+ fans by managing to lose, and getting a player sent off.!! A bad ploy to "rest" certain players as it disrupts the rhythm. I see a 0-0 in the first leg, with Plymouth getting a 1-0 victory in the return via a penalty with a Pompey getting sent off. Hope Stanley stuff those órrible Wombles.
Have to say the only plus part of today was having the second leg here. Sunday is much better than a Thursday evening. Nothing to be fooled about following todays results to be honest and they mean less. Nobody turned up at Home Park today including the Ref. We played a number of youngsters and they were the only ones that interested. They scored 4 of our 5 between them. To be fair 5 - 0 was a bit of a joke scoreline even if well deserved.
What's all this negative stuff chaps? I suspect a bit of reverse psychology myself. I saw the odds for the play offs today and you were the favourites with the bookies and we were the outsiders. Bit of a fecking cheek if you ask me but not unexpected is it. You are always going to be favourites because the World has got bigger club syndrome which can have nothing to do with chances but still. I think this is all going to be very close and I wouldn't like to hazard a guess which teams will get to Wembley and then win the final.
Don't fret yourself Greeny ! With our current injury problems, we will probably field our Academy side against you
Good luck to both teams - good game no crowd trouble ref and line officials who officiate fairly and correctly it might be wishful thinking but hey
So long as it isn't those horrible chavs from Wimbledon and their brand of football, or have they changed their style from the bad old days. Mind you if they have a striker who can "beat up" central defenders, perhaps Cook should sign him, ie the "Beast"
