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Sakho Suspended For Failing Doping Test.

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  1. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Who you calling soft you geriatric old fart :emoticon-0172-mooni

    This is you after 2 pints of shandy.
    , sorry carling <somersault>
     
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  2. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Stone?
     
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  3. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    <doh> <doh> <doh> The heaviest I've ever been is 14 stone.
     
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  4. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    The drug he's alleged to have taken is a diuretic. If he was a weightlifter or a track athlete the fingers would be pointing that it was being used as a masking agent - which is what it is used for - to hide the use of anabolic steroids.
     
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  5. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    Apparently it's all Brendans fault. He told Sakho he wasn't playing because he had a big arse back in September.....
     
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  6. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    Or losing weight...their original abused use. Unless he's hiding a heart or kidney issue rather than a beer gut lol...
     
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  7. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Did he look like a bloke with a few pounds to lose last month like?

    I think football is in denial about PED's and the testing is beyond lax.
     
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  8. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    No way is he on anobolic steroids or he'd be built like a combo of Arnie and Sly and have to turn his entire upper body to look sideways.[/QUOTE]
     
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  9. DirtyFrank

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    No...but then that would suggest the fat burning drugs worked eh?

    It is on record that the reason Rodgers wouldn't play him was weight and fitness issues coming in from the summer.

    Aren't anabolic steroids a bit 1980's? Loads more non steroidal performance enhancing drugs that are harder to detect out now. WADA have admitted a lot of them are almost impossible to detect with current testing...why would he take a steroid easy to detect and then a banned diuretic also easy to detect to try and mask the steroid when you'll still get banned for taking either?

    Although in a case like this it would be interesting to see how often he has been tested over the last 3 years both at club level and international.
     
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  10. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    UEFA did some testing a couple of years back and found that nearly 8% of the samples showed high levels of testosterone - a giveaway sign of anabolic steroid use.

    The sample size was over 4,000 and was largely taken from players in the EL and CL.

    Nearly 1 in 10...,.....but there's no widespread problem - honest......
     
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  11. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    I was making a wider point mate, but no, they're far from old news
     
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  12. DirtyFrank

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    Didn't the EPL bring in blood profiling at the start of this year for all players? And go further than WADA in looking for recreational drugs as well as performance enhancers?

    Aye. Steroids are still around but are they not the amateur body builder drug of choice since athletes have much more sophisticated "cheating" they can do now.

    Have to say of all the football leagues you'd think the PL would have players under most pressure to cheat this way. It's the most athletic and high intensity...there's more injury and pressure to recover more quickly.

    Only thing I would say is unlike other sports rife with it the top players get paid even when injured unlike athletics or tennis etc...
     
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  13. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Used to take a sugary drink back in the day when I did middle-distance running. Fat-burners, which I bought from Tesco about a year ago, gave me a ****ing migraine. My ex, a nurse, told me that they're chocka with caffeine. I can't drink anything but decaffeinated coffee. What you get on the internet has got allsorts in them, and as I work on the railway and I'm tested for drugs I can't see the point of taking any risks. Why a professional athlete wouldn't look at it like that I cannot fathom, unless Tobes has a point re-masking.

    Some guff in the Mail today stating the ****ing obvious re fat burners, and that some are not actually banned during training. The issue is knowing when they've left your system. Well d'uh! That's exactly the issue with alcohol on the railway. You can get pissed out of your brain in your own time, but when you come to work you're supposed to be 'clean'. Ifa £15k a year platform despatcher can work that one out and face the responsibilities thereof, a millionaire footballer, with all the advice available to them, should be able to come to this conclusion - just don't use them!

    Sacked and sold if the B test comes back positive. No excuses, no toleration. D!ckhead.
     
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  14. Lucaaas

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    Even if people did use performance enhancing drugs in football, how much difference would it actually make? Even if you got big and fast as **** the likes of Barcelona would still pass triangles around you for 90 minutes. Football is one of the only sports where physical limitations like height, strength and pace don't hold you back a great deal.

    I just don't see it myself.
     
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  15. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Ermmmm really?

    Stamina? Being able to cover more ground? Muscle bulk for strength and power? Increased speed from larger leg muscles?
     
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  16. Lucaaas

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    I'm not denying there wouldn't be advantages. I just don't think you could bridge the gap of being a decent player and turn yourself into a world class player with the help of performance enhancing drugs.

    For example Kevin Stewart could take as many performance enhancing drugs as he likes, he'll still be Kevin Stewart. That's all I'm saying. So much of football is played in the head, its not as clear cut as in a sport like rugby where physical superiority results in automatic greatness, you have to be able to actually play football to begin with.
     
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  17. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    You could use the same argument in athletics though.

    Big Ali from the bab shop could take roids, EPO and half the contents of Boots and he'd not make a sprinter, but that's not how sport works

    It's all about the accumulation of marginal gains and PEDs provide an advantage. They're athletes not just footballers
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Yup. You cannot tell so if his b sample is positive it's off on hols you go my little turd and no preseason for you.

    Carragher said it well. Let everyone down.
     
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  19. Lucaaas

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    That is true, but the marginal gains don't affect the end result very significantly in my opinion, especially when compared to sports like cycling or sprinting. Speed & stamina are core attributes required for those sports, it is not the case in football, most of football is played in your head, something that you either have or don't.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    For those thinking drugs can't really help footballers.

    Sorry but wrong.

    Two games a week takes its toll. Anyone else can throw in a big game but to cone back 3 days later and do it again requires recovery and it's the recovery where the drugs really help.

    You can run all day and come back and do it again. If you can't then someone takes your place and you don't get in..... well pop some pills and hey you can do it.

    Nothing to do with talents it's all about recovery.
     
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