Would help to get your facts right. United won none of those the season he was banned. You've also missed the original point. He may have missed the test but took it the following day and passed. He may well have deserved a ban for missing the tes but no way did United gain any unfair advantage from a player taking drugs... and THAT'S the point. That should rile every fan who's team has played against someone who's taken performance enhancing drugs as G4E mentioned above with Arsenal in the CL. I'm not surprised though that yet again a Liverpool fan wants to turn this into a tribal slanging match in order to defend their own. I was trying to avoid that. Should we expect printed t-shirts next?
It's supposedly a performance enhancing drug. But tbf I've read nothing is confirmed until Test B sample comes back.
As you say it's a team sport. Just cause Rio was taking something dodgy so had to miss the test, whose to say others in team weren't also being dodgy. If you want to punish the whole of LFC for what Sakho did, then why didn't you want to punish whole of United for what Rio did?
Because Sakho (if guilty) took performance enhancing drugs which gave the whole team an unfair advantage. Rio who passed the test the following day, was not taking any drugs and therefore not giving his team an unfair advantage. It's a simple point mate. Is it right that other clubs should be penalised for an opponent having a player on performance enhancing drugs that places them at an unfair advantage.
it wasn;t even dope, it was a picture of him with a laughing gas cannister, which is legal and far less damaging than beer.
He's looking at a 6 month ban(based on Toure's at City)and if the B test is positive and confirms it he will deserve it. Was this the 1st time he's ever been tested?, any punishment or consequences for his club can only start from the time he was tested positive, Uefa has said there will be no punishment for the club and the club has voluntarily banned him until the investigation is complete. No t-shirts or tribalism from this side Trebs.
Well, he took weight loss pills (apparently) bit different from your standard enhancers, not that he shouldn't be punished for it. Punishment for the club should be that they lose te player for X amount of time. Punishment for player is he's suspended and his wages docked accordingly. Unless it was made clear at the star of the season that anyone caught would mean whole team is punished so clubs can go about stopping it at source by regularly testing their players, you can't just bring in a new punishment after someone is found guilty. What do you do, give everyone that he played against 3 points? How far do you go back? A month? 2 months? The whole season? I don't have a problem with punishing the club but you have to give them enough notice of what's going to happen, give them the equipment to test players in the same way the FA do.
He wasnt taking any drugs? He passed the test the following day? How convenient for him. Good advice from someone.
Ferdinand never failed a drugs test. If he had, would it make sense to discount all the trophies he won after his suspension? Odd way of thinking missy!
Let's be honest, this is a Dipper player so it must be a conspiracy etc. The excuses and justification for him taking a banned substance will roll on for years. Some of them still think Suarez was hard done by (every time).
Fair enough But when you're on the end of it, you can't help but feel hard done by. It's not that this is a Liverpool player, I would have asked the question if it was Arsenal, Chavbus, City or whoever. It fcks you off to think there may have been something that made the difference between Team X getting a set of points that could adversely affect you, or against you directly. While any punishment against the player will impact on the club, it doesn't change the results of games already played. I reckon there will come a point where a club will win a major trophy like the League title or CL and we'll find a player test positive for performance enhancing drugs and at that point a few who see no problem with simply punishing the player, might think differently (nowt to do with Sakho or Livpl just generally).
Thing is, it's hard to prove that they used the drugs in other games. They could have been tested earlier in the season when they weren't taking and passed. What if they only happen to take it for a couple weeks and get found guilty at that point, do you go back and punish club for whole season despite them actually only benefiting from 1 or 2 games? dont disagree with punishing clubs, but You'd have to give warning so they can prepare counter measures in house to make sure. They'd certainly take testing their own players more serious if those were the consequences though
It sounds like Treble wants Man Utd back in the EL semi-final.... Bitter? The truth is no-one knows what's been taken yet, so until we know for sure it's a moot point. If he's cheated on purpose then ban him and sell him, no problem. I suspect it's his wife's diet pills (like Toure). The reality is, he'll probably get a 6 month ban and all we be forgotten in a couple of years. But to harp on about teams should feel cheated etc etc. is a bit embarrassing - like a few fat burning pills (allegedly) is going to suddenly turn him into a super human defender GTFO. As far as I know there isn't a drug on the market that would make you soooo good the other team's should be feeling cheated, he might have lost a stone in weight over a few months - big deal Should the rules be changed? Probably more testing should be done - but let's be honest it's a minefield out there waiting to blow up. Also these Cortisone injections players have, to play when injured - is that performance enhancing? I'd personally say yes, as they wouldn't be able to perform without it. It's a serious can of worms that the FA and UEFA don't fancy opening. Maybe this might force them, seriously doubt it though. As you were...
I would say a player ban and a 10 point deduction for the following season. Yes other players may be innocent but it is a team game, so one fall all all for one approached is needed. In the EU the team would be banned the next time they were in an EU comp
