If we had just sold Torres, and Suarez wasn't here, I'd probably pick Aguero. With Suarez already here, as was the case, I'd pick Carroll. People use the 'played half a season in the PL' stick to beat us with quite a lot with Carroll, but Aguero hasn't even played one game! Yes, I know he's been consistently good in Spain (before you point that out) but it's still a risk compared to a guy who had scored 11 goals already in the PL. Kenny knew Carroll would do well in the PL because he had done so in his first half season , whereas all he could do is speculate over Aguero. I certainly don't remember the latter being brilliant against us in the Europa League. It was Forlan who did the damage.
19. How about you comparing them. Ian Rush aged 25 and Wayne Rooney aged 25..which one would be better? In reality they can't be compared as they are different types of forward,but I'm using Arabian Expats logic in comparing forwards that offer different things and cannot be compared.
19 I know it is you mong. I was only using examples. I was using different types of forwards that cannot be compared because they offer different things. As I said on the first page,Suarez and Rooney would be a better comparison to make or Suarez and Aguero or Rooney and Aguero. You cannot compare Carroll and Aguero,its like comparing Rooney to Samuel Eto'o or Thierry Henry in his prime.You can't.
I don't get the comparison. the fees do not match at all. Last time I checked Wages and sign on fee were tangible as to whether a transfer would suceed or fail (See David N'gog's failed transfer to Sunderland) and as Aguero has signed a 5 year deal at £200k a week thats a transfer of £90m (inc. £38m fee) + Signing fees + Any other bonus (cups, league wins, etc) compared to Andy Carroll who signed a 5 year deal at £80k a week making his transfer work (inc. £35m fee) £55.8m + signing fee + other bonus (cups, league wins, etc) That makes Andy Carroll's transfer about 38% cheaper then Aguero's
No, you're trying to draw in United fans in the most feeble way possible. I'm not going to answer your question because you would (as ever) counter it with a load of anti-United rubbish.
Is it really about the pricetag though? Whenever a team like City show a shred of interest for a player the value of that player increases dramatically. Hypothetically, if Aguero's fee+wages matched Carrolls, would you see a comparison then?
19 I'm not drawing in United fans. I'm using a proper example. Andy Carroll like Adebayor and Drogba and Berbatov is a focal point,a target man. Rooney like Suarez and Aguero is a inside forward ie they make runs from deep. Whereas Hernandez is like Fernando Torres in that he's a play on the shoulder of the last defender striker. Three different types that cannot be compared against each other.Only like for like can be compared.Price tags are irrelevant.
here is something. If we're going by something to judge these two players by then it's goals. Strikers are paid to score goals. Aguero's Career goal/game ratio one in every 2.32 games while Carrolls is 3.08 Aguero's ratio is 14% better then Carroll's while he cost approx 38% more now who got the better deal? (also consider that Carroll is younger then Aguero and is already somewhat more adept to hte premiers leagues pace)
but everyone would take thierry henry regardless. its like arbaian said if in december you would have known you could choose aguero for 38m and carrol for 35m not one person would say carrol. i like carrol think he'll be a moderate success but hes just not up there with the best, while aguero arguably is. and between the suarez vs aguero comparison their both really good players and they'll both do good in my opinion, but wait till the end of the season where they're in the same league and we see how they cope.
I think this sums up the whole thread no need more be said. all be it i do happen to think suarez is becoming very close to world class and is nearly on the same level as aguero, their both similar age so we'll see how both their careers turn out thorughout the next 3 or 4 seasons in the same league. I'd also like to say this, which is quite irrelevent. the funny thing is that alot of liverpool fans say they prefer to have downing and adam and henderson over mata and cazorla or aguero for the fact that they would be proud to play for liverpool which is understandable. and like i've said before not only does it not mean that foreigners wont be proud to play for liverpool but more the fact that most liverpool fans have litrally fallen inlove with suarez because of his skill, yet people forget he said he'd love to play for barca one day. skill alone can take you places, especially if you dont let your passion drop to much by playing a club you dont support. people judge foreigners like they'll deffinately just eff off in a couple of years, and while they might do they'll still achieve alot in the years there here. lets be honest all the best players to play in the prem are foreigners its not all about being passionate and hard tackling, you also need skill to get places.
Carroll is a moderate success. If he scores once every two games he will have surpassed Wayne ''1 in 3'' Rooney.Oops I forgot Rooney is an allrounder,he works hard...in other words...he runs around. Andy Carroll cost £7 milliion more than Rooney however he's also 3 years younger. However if Carroll is a moderate success so is Chick-pea as they both scored the same number of league goals 13 and two more than ''Plain'' Rooney 11. Apparently Rooney has an excuse for his poor finishing..he had personal problems...only in Trafford does have having threesomes with kerb-crawlers when your wife is up the spout constitute personal problems.
why do you say carrol is 3 years younger at the same time as comparing prices? rooney was bought at 18 and has clearly been a masssive success for united, theres no denying it hate him as much as you want he's still a top ten player in the world. You also seem to forget this was one of rooneys worst seasons in over 4 years ( since he was 21 ) and that he still had about 9 asissts. and hernendez has 20 goals in all comps more than carrol not to mention it was his first year in a league outside north america, he had to adapt and he done it very well. Carrol isnt a moderate success yet he has scored two goals for liverpool, for all you know he might spiral out of control with his problems off feild and turn out as the next barton, wasted talent. or he might just fade away with the pressure of his price tag getting to him. if he scores 12-16+ goals next season then he'll be a success but being realistic he doesnt even need to score that many, he just has to be compatiable with suarez and get an amazing pathernership working, which is clearly possible. but hes not a success yet, not at all.
